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08BUENOSAIRES781 2008-06-06 11:38 2011-08-25 00:00 UNCLASSIFIED//FOR OFFICIAL USE ONLY Embassy Buenos Aires
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R 061138Z JUN 08
FM AMEMBASSY BUENOS AIRES
TO RUEHC/SECSTATE WASHDC 1265
INFO RUEATRS/DEPT OF TREASURY WASHINGTON DC
RUCPDOC/DEPT OF COMMERCE WASHINGTON DC
RUEHRC/DEPT OF AGRICULTURE USD FAS WASHINGTON DC
RUEHC/DEPT OF LABOR WASHINGTON DC
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UNCLAS BUENOS AIRES 000781 
 
SIPDIS 
SENSITIVE 
 
E.O. 12958: N/A 
TAGS: ECON ENRG PGOV PREL AR
SUBJECT:  Codel Dodd Meeting with Argentine President Fernandez de 
Kirchner 
 
Ref: N/A 
 
This cable contains sensitive information - not for internet 
distribution. 
 
Summary 
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1.  (SBU) President Fernandez de Kircher met with Codel Dodd for 
over an hour May 29.  On Bolivia, she called for a solution which 
respected democratic institutions and avoided "Balkanization."  More 
broadly in Latin America, the President said she hoped for 
increasing regional integration in the years ahead and that the 
United States would support and be part of this process, as such 
integration and development would increase America's own security. 
She said she hoped the next President of the United States would 
signal that the United States knows that the economic and democratic 
development of the region is vital to the U.S. and place a priority 
on supporting those processes.  She argued that the world food 
situation demanded long term vision, commitment and cooperation, and 
that the Middle East would undoubtedly be near the top of the 
foreign policy agenda for the new U.S. president.  Asked about 
anti-Americanism in Argentina, CFK noted the many historic roots of 
this phenomenon but argued that the image of the U.S. could improve 
notably as the broader image and role of the U.S. in the world 
evolved.  The tone of the conversation was friendly and relaxed 
through-out. End summary. 
 
2.  (SBU) On the evening of May 29, President Cristina Fernandez de 
Kirchner (CFK) received Senator Christopher Dodd (D - CT) and 
Representative Xavier Becerra (D - CA) for a little over an hour. 
U.S. Ambassador Wayne, Argentine Foreign Minister Jorge Taiana, and 
Argentine Ambassador to the U.S. Hector Timerman also attended. 
 
Bolivia 
------- 
 
3.  (SBU) Senator Dodd explained that he had just come from Bolivia, 
where he had met with the Vice President and with the leader of the 
Podemos political party.  CFK commented that she hoped a way could 
be found to restart the process of institutionalization in Bolivia 
and to avoid the serious problems for the region that will arise if 
the political situation continues to deteriorate.  The key, she 
argued, is a process that respects democracy and existing 
institutions.  "What we don't want to see is the Balkanization of 
Latin America," she concluded. 
 
U.S. Elections 
-------------- 
 
4.  (SBU) CFK asked the Senator and Representative their impressions 
about the state of play in the U.S. elections.  Senator Dodd said he 
was supporting Senator Obama, but that there will be significant 
change regardless of which of the three candidates wins the 
election.  He shared specific insights related to the current state 
of play in the electoral contest. 
 
Latin American Integration 
-------------------------- 
 
5.  (SBU) Senator Dodd said that during the coming months of 
electoral competition in the U.S., it is important that voices of 
moderation and wisdom be heard in Latin America.  If the candidates 
only hear about and from the likes of Chavez and Morales, they will 
find it harder to set out a wise Latin America policy.  He also 
asked what CFK thought were the important themes for Latin America 
in the years ahead.  CFK said she hoped that Latin America would 
gradually move to more integration, just as Europe had done starting 
with the initial efforts of France, Germany, and the Benelux 
countries.  CFK said she knows what a key role the United States 
played in supporting European integration and she hopes the USG will 
support and participate in Latin America's increasing integration. 
This process could be the best defense against terrorism and a real 
solution to the immigration problem, she argued.  The United States 
worked very hard to achieve its powerful and wealthy position in the 
world, she continued, but along with that comes the responsibility 
to help others in the hemisphere to grow their economies and create 
opportunities so their people don't feel the pressing need to 
emigrate to the United States to achieve a good life.  This process 
clearly needs a commitment to a long-term vision by the leaders in 
the United States and in Latin America, she said. 
 
Speculation and Food 
-------------------- 
 
6.  (SBU) At present, CFK said the weak dollar and the soaring 
 
demand for food and oil are creating serious problems for leaders 
all over the world.  She said she was worried about the effect of 
speculators and investment funds in Argentina's economy and 
elsewhere.  Clearly, regulation of these groups had to be better, 
she said.  Turning to the food situation, she noted that the world 
was today producing 30% more calories than ten years ago, but there 
were clearly still problems in distribution.  Countries in the world 
with great potential as food producers should apply the best of new 
technologies to maximize their potential with the help of the most 
developed countries.  Countries, like many in Africa, where there 
are serious structural limits on food production should benefit from 
technology and support to make the structural changes needed to 
increase their ability to produce and distribute food.  This process 
will take years and requires bold international leadership, CFK 
argued.  In this connection, the conversation turned to the 
desirability of getting the U.S. public and leaders to focus on the 
needs of the world.  The Senator noted that the expectations on the 
new U.S. president to solve many problems at home and abroad would 
be very high. 
 
Middle East Vital 
----------------- 
 
7.  (SBU) CFK argued that the new President's attitude toward the 
Middle East Peace Process would be vital.  If the USG is able to 
make progress there, it will seriously undermine the radicalization 
process in the Islamic world.  In this context, CFK said that she 
was very positively impressed with current Israeli Foreign Minister 
Livni, whom she has met a couple of times. 
 
What the New U.S. President Should Say: "Latin America is Part of 
Us" 
----------------------------------- 
 
8.  (SBU) Senator Dodd asked CFK what the new U.S. president should 
say about Latin America.  CFK said that the key message would be 
that the United States sees Latin America as part of itself, and 
thus as a priority for the U.S.  The idea would be a set of policies 
aimed at significantly lifting Latin America's living and 
institutional standards so citizens of other countries in the region 
don't feel the need to go to the United States to improve their 
lives.  In this context, she and the Foreign Minister noted that 
Argentina also has many immigrants: two million-plus Bolivians, one 
million Paraguayans, and about 400,000 Uruguayans.  CFK noted that 
they play an important economic role for Argentina.  For example, 
the Bolivians are key workers in the construction, vegetable, and 
flower industries.  In this connection, she noted that the United 
States and Latin America are fortunate that the vast majority of 
their immigrants don't bring the cultural clash that so many 
immigrants to Europe bring in terms of stark religious and racial 
differences. 
 
Argentine Anti-Americanism 
-------------------------- 
 
9.  (SBU) Senator Dodd asked why there was such a high level of 
anti-Americanism evident in polls in Argentina compared to other 
Latin American countries.  CFK said in her view there are many 
historical reasons for the high level of anti-Americanism, though it 
was striking that no political leader of Argentina had made this a 
central part of his or her platform.  She recounted a number of 
historical examples from the policies of the Radical party leaders 
after WWI to the alignment of U.S. Ambassador Braden with the 
opposition and against President Peron after WW II.  She noted that, 
at its core, antipathy towards our country seemed to be rooted in a 
sentiment of wanting to differentiate Argentina from the United 
States, but she added that there are also very positive memories of 
Kennedy and of Carter and his human rights policies when Argentina 
was under military rule.  In the 1990s, the attitude toward the 
United States had been more positive as well.  CFK posited that, 
with a change in the U.S. role and image in the world, the attitudes 
in Argentina would change for the better, too. 
 
Comment 
------- 
 
10.  (SBU) CFK was open and friendly throughout the conversation. 
She commented that her recent meetings with senior U.S. officials 
had been positive, and made clear that she hoped relations would get 
better, praising in particular the work of A/S Shannon to get 
bilateral relations back on a good path. 
 
WAYNE 
SENSITIVE BUT UNCLASSIFIED 
 
SENSITIVE BUT UNCLASSIFIED 
 
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