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Viewing cable 07HANOI1994, AMBASSADOR RAISES AMCIT ARREST CASES WITH VICE MINISTER OF

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Reference ID Created Released Classification Origin
07HANOI1994 2007-11-27 10:59 2011-08-25 00:00 UNCLASSIFIED//FOR OFFICIAL USE ONLY Embassy Hanoi
VZCZCXRO6510
RR RUEHHM
DE RUEHHI #1994/01 3311059
ZNR UUUUU ZZH
R 271059Z NOV 07
FM AMEMBASSY HANOI
TO RUEHC/SECSTATE WASHDC 6775
INFO RUEHHM/AMCONSUL HO CHI MINH 3987
RHEHNSC/NATIONAL SECURITY COUNCIL WASHINGTON DC
UNCLAS SECTION 01 OF 02 HANOI 001994 
 
SIPDIS 
 
SENSITIVE 
SIPDIS 
 
STATE FOR EAP/MLS, DRL/AWH, CA/OCS 
 
E.O. 12958: N/A 
TAGS: PHUM PGOV CASC CMGT VM
 
SUBJECT: AMBASSADOR RAISES AMCIT ARREST CASES WITH VICE MINISTER OF 
PUBLIC SECURITY 
 
REF: HANOI 1969 
 
1. (SBU) Summary:  On November 27, the Ambassador met with Vice 
Minister for Public Security Nguyen Van Huong to reiterate requests 
for consular access to arrested U.S. citizens Mr. Leon Truong, Ms. 
Le Helen, and Mr. Le Van Phan, and to inquire about the whereabouts 
of U.S. citizen Nguyen Quoc Quan.  VM Huong stated that MPS is ready 
to grant access to the three arrested U.S. citizens, but could not 
immediately confirm when.  While stating that the GVN has no 
knowledge of nor has it detained anyone named Nguyen Quan Quoc, VM 
Huong provided a Cambodian ID card of Mr. Ly Seng who entered 
Vietnam illegally and is in police custody.  VM Huong indicated that 
consular access would also be granted to Ms. Le Helen and Mr. Le Van 
Phan, arrested for attempting to enter Vietnam with a loaded weapon 
in their checked baggage.  VM Huong maintained that Viet Tan is a 
terrorist organization and that all arrested are connected with the 
group.  The Ambassador said the U.S. does not consider Viet Tan to 
be a terrorist organization;  reiterated that these people appear to 
have been peacefully expressing their political views and that the 
United States protested their arrest and called for their immediate 
release. VM Huong said he could not accede to the request for 
immediate release. End Summary. 
 
2. (SBU) Vice Minister of Public Security Nguyen Van Huong called 
the meeting in response to the Ambassador's letter to him (reftel) 
regarding the arrests of U.S. citizens in HCMC.  After providing a 
lengthy statement on the history and goals of Viet Tan organization, 
he concluded that, while the Viet Tan may no longer use violent 
means, it is still listed as a terrorist organization by the GVN and 
it advocates the overthrow of the GVN.  The Ambassador respectfully 
disagreed, reiterating that the U.S. government rejects the 
allegation that the Viet Tan is a terrorist organization, pointing 
out that Viet Tan explicitly advocates only peaceful means to 
promote political change in Vietnam.  VM Huong handed over a number 
of documents to make his case, which the Embassy will translate and 
review.  VM Huong asked the Ambassador to reiterate with Washington 
and the Vietnamese-American community in the United States that, 
even though the United States and Vietnam do not see eye to eye on 
this issue, persons entering Vietnam to advocate for the overthrow 
of the current government change are breaking Vietnamese law and 
will be arrested.  The Ambassador said we would review the documents 
but that our view was that Viet Tan is not a terrorist organization; 
that these people were peacefully expressing their political views 
and the United States protested their arrest and called for their 
immediate release.  VM Huong said that he could not agree to that 
request. 
 
3. (SBU) The Ambassador focused the conversation on the issue of 
consular access to Mr. Truong, reminding VM Huong of the bilateral 
agreement to provide such access within 48 hours.  Huong stated that 
MPS is ready to grant access and will ask the MFA to provide Mission 
Vietnam with a dipnote to that affect.  He confirmed that Mr. Truong 
is being charged with terrorism under Article 84 of the Criminal 
Code.  When Mr. Truong was arrested, he was printing documents 
explaining how to organize and protest against the GVN.  VM Huong 
provided Mr. Truong's written confession (in Vietnamese). 
 
4. (SBU) The Ambassador requested any information the GVN might have 
on Mr. Nguyen Quan Quoc, who was reported by U.S. sources to have 
also been arrested on November 17.  VM Huong reiterated that MPS has 
reviewed its records and has no knowledge of anyone by that name 
being held in detention.  VM Huong then passed a photocopy of a 
Cambodian ID card with the name "Ly Seng".  He stated that Mr. Seng 
had been arrested on the Cambodian border for entering Vietnam 
illegally and asked for U.S. help in determining whether Mr. Ly Seng 
might actually be Mr. Nguyen Quan Quoc.  The Ambassador agreed to 
check our records and provide a response.  Note:  Post has compared 
the photo on the Cambodian ID and the U.S. passport photo for Mr. 
Nguyen Quan Quoc and they appear to be the same person.  End Note. 
 
5. (SBU) The Ambassador also requested consular access to U.S. 
citizens Ms. Le Helen and Mr. Le Van Phan, arrested on November 23 
for attempting to enter Vietnam with a loaded weapon in their 
checked baggage.  VM Huong agreed to facilitate access, but again 
noted that "the bureaucracy may take time to act."  VM Huong stated 
that the GVN had contacted U.S. anti-terrorism authorities regarding 
these arrests, as the GVN believes these two persons to be 
affiliated with the Viet Tan, although he did not provide evidence 
to support this assertion. 
 
6. (SBU) Comment: We are following up on Huong's assurance that 
consular access to three Amcits in GVN custody will be granted.  We 
now are fairly certain that Mr. Nguyen Quan Quoc is in Vietnamese 
custody.  We will request further information on Mr. Nguyen Quan 
Quoc (aka Ly Seng) as well as request consular access to Mr. Nguyen 
as soon as possible.  While Vietnam continues to assert that Viet 
Tan is a "terrorist organization," and we will carefully examine all 
 
HANOI 00001994  002 OF 002 
 
 
documents provided by MPS, we do not expect to find new information 
regarding the history, aims, or tactics of the group.  Mission 
Vietnam will undertake a consular visit to Mr. Truong, Ms. Le Helen 
and Mr. Phan as soon as possible and will press for consular access 
to and more information on Mr. Nguyen Quan Quoc. 
 
Michalak