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Viewing cable 07KINSHASA527, AN EXCLUSIVE INTERVIEW WITH MARIE THERESE NLANDU

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Reference ID Created Released Classification Origin
07KINSHASA527 2007-05-11 12:56 2011-08-25 00:00 UNCLASSIFIED//FOR OFFICIAL USE ONLY Embassy Kinshasa
VZCZCXRO2499
PP RUEHBZ RUEHDU RUEHGI RUEHJO RUEHMR RUEHRN
DE RUEHKI #0527/01 1311256
ZNR UUUUU ZZH
P 111256Z MAY 07
FM AMEMBASSY KINSHASA
TO RUEHC/SECSTATE WASHDC PRIORITY 6115
INFO RUEHXR/RWANDA COLLECTIVE
RUCNSAD/SOUTHERN AF DEVELOPMENT COMMUNITY
RUEAIIA/CIA WASHDC
RHEFDIA/DIA WASHDC
RHMFISS/HQ USEUCOM VAIHINGEN GE
RUFOADA/JAC MOLESWORTH RAF MOLESWORTH UK
UNCLAS SECTION 01 OF 02 KINSHASA 000527 
 
SIPDIS 
 
SENSITIVE 
SIPDIS 
 
E.O. 12958: N/A 
TAGS: PHUM KDEM KJUS CG
SUBJECT: AN EXCLUSIVE INTERVIEW WITH MARIE THERESE NLANDU 
 
REF: A. KINSHASA 502 
 
     B. KINSHASA 279 
 
1.  (SBU) Summary.  Bemba attorney and unsuccessful 
presidential candidate Marie Therese Nlandu gave an exclusive 
interviewto Poloff in which she outlined her side of the 
vents that led to her arrest on charges of insurretion and 
weapons possession.  She also explained why she thought she 
was acquitted and described in detail what she called a 
pattern of political arrests.  While Nlandu's story stretched 
credibility at times, much of it is supported by local and 
international human rights organizations.  End summary. 
 
2.  (SBU) Congolese politician and Bemba lawyer Marie Therese 
Nlandu and one of her attorneys, Maitre Mutombo, visited 
Poloff at the embassy May 7, one week after being acquitted 
of government charges that she had instigated the November 21 
burning of the Supreme Court.  Nlandu thanked Poloff for 
attending several of her court hearings.  "This was the 
reason I was liberated," she claimed.  Nlandu appeared to be 
suffering from headaches and the effects of nearly four 
months in prison.  She said she would leave May 10 for the UK 
to visit her family there. 
 
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Nlandu gives her side of the story 
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3.  (SBU) Nlandu recounted how she viewed the key events 
leading to her arrest.  She said that when police arrested 
six of her employees and Pastor Jose Inongo on November 20, 
her vehicle had split from the one carrying the group only 
moments earlier.  She claimed police would have killed her 
had she been arrested with the others, although she provided 
no evidence to support this view. 
 
4.  (SBU) Nlandu asserted that she, and not other Bemba 
supporters, was targeted for arrest for two reasons.  First, 
she said she was able to calm the crowd outside the Supreme 
Court on November 20 when no one else could, showing the 
government that she was a strong and powerful voice to be 
reckoned with.  Second, she claimed the government was afraid 
that if she continued as Bemba's lawyer, he would win his 
election challenge before the Supreme Court. 
 
5.  (SBU) She acknowledged that Bemba did not once visit her 
in prison, although his wife did.  She insisted she was not 
angry at his "abandonment" of her, saying she had "borne her 
cross for her country." 
 
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How and why they won the case 
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6.  (SBU) Nlandu attorney Mutombo said the defense team 
became optimistic about her eventual acquittal when the tapes 
of a Nlandu interview, in which she allegedly urged 
supporters to insurrection, were played for the military 
judges (ref A).  He said that as it became apparent that 
Nlandu was inside the Supreme Court building during the 
violence outside which led to its burning, the lawyers knew 
the government case was flawed.  He said he believed the 
judges repeatedly postponed the hearings because they knew 
the case was weak and were trying to find a politically 
expedient way to dismiss it. 
 
7.  (SBU) Nlandu called the military judges "courageous." She 
expressed concern they would lose their jobs or face 
persecution because of the acquittal and claimed a judge she 
knew had been fired in 2005 for reaching the wrong verdict. 
She and Mutombo agreed that military prosecutor Homere Nkulu 
was singularly inept, although noting that he had won 
convictions in similar cases before. 
 
8.  (SBU) Regarding Inonga and the two former Mobutu-era 
soldiers caught in the act of setting fire to the Supreme 
Court, Nlandu asserted they were acquitted because they were 
working for the government.  She said the "Pastor" had set 
her up and claimed the two soldiers had been paid to testify 
that she gave them orders to start the Supreme Court fire. 
 
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Fears for allies and opposition 
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9.  (SBU) Nlandu alleged that her employees still suffered 
 
KINSHASA 00000527  002 OF 002 
 
 
the after-effects of torture by police.  In particular, she 
claimed police had tortured her driver in such a way that he 
fears having been rendered sterile.  She reported that she 
advised her co-defendants upon release to "disappear, go to 
the provinces, stay out of sight."  Mutombo said he feared 
for his life and requested visa assistance from the U.S. 
Embassy.  (Note: Poloff instructed him to speak with the 
consular section directly and to register with MONUC Human 
Rights Division, which is maintaining contact with people who 
feel endangered because of their association with the 
opposition.  End note.) 
 
10.  (SBU) Nlandu also pled for international assistance to 
secure the release of some 400 people (her estimate) being 
held in jails and prisons in Kinshasa as "opposition." 
(Note:  MONUC Human Rights division estimates 200 detainees 
following the events of March 22-23.  Bemba advisor Delly 
Sesanga cited a precise figure of 68 in a meeting with 
Poloffs May 8.  End note.)  Nlandu claimed the detainees 
included minors, an allegation confirmed by MONUC.  She also 
said she had met a young woman while in prison who said she 
had been detained because hers was the final number dialed on 
a phone confiscated from another "opposition" detainee. 
Nlandu called for the international community to apply 
political and economic pressure on the Congolese government 
to free these prisoners. 
 
11.  (SBU) Nlandu said she doubted President Kabila knew 
about all the detainees, but added that he "certainly knew 
about" her detention and had declined to intervene, saying it 
was a matter for the justice system to decide. 
 
12.  (SBU) Nlandu asserted military prosecutor Nkulu told her 
upon her release that he would have her back in prison within 
three months.  Although she claimed not to fear prison after 
surviving her ordeal, Nlandu indeed left the DRC May 10 for 
"at least two months."  She told Poloff she wants to return 
to the DRC "not in a political role," but to resume her law 
practice. 
 
13.  (SBU) Comment.  Nlandu's account of her experiences 
clearly contains elements of truth as well as speculation. 
For example, her assertion that had she not been arrested 
Jean Pierre Bemba's claim on the presidency would have been 
upheld is fantasy.  However, the detention of suspected Bemba 
supporters and her fears for her employees have been echoed 
by MONUC and human rights organizations.  Post will continue 
to monitor these allegations and report any developments 
septel.  End comment. 
MEECE