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Viewing cable 07HANOI550, GVN RESPONSE TO U.S. ARF INITIATIVES AND ITS ASSESSMENT OF

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Reference ID Created Released Classification Origin
07HANOI550 2007-03-22 08:45 2011-08-25 00:00 UNCLASSIFIED//FOR OFFICIAL USE ONLY Embassy Hanoi
VZCZCXRO3524
RR RUEHCHI RUEHDT RUEHHM
DE RUEHHI #0550 0810845
ZNR UUUUU ZZH
R 220845Z MAR 07
FM AMEMBASSY HANOI
TO RUEHC/SECSTATE WASHDC 4953
INFO RUEHHM/AMCONSUL HO CHI MINH 2785
RUEHZS/ASEAN REGIONAL FORUM COLLECTIVE
UNCLAS HANOI 000550 
 
SIPDIS 
 
SENSITIVE 
SIPDIS 
 
E.O. 12958: N/A 
TAGS: PREL ARF MARR PARM VM
SUBJECT: GVN RESPONSE TO U.S. ARF INITIATIVES AND ITS ASSESSMENT OF 
ARF PROCESS ARE POSITIVE 
 
REF: State 33907 
 
1. (SBU) Summary:  On March 22, Poloff presented reftel points and 
proposals on ARF initiatives at the MFA ASEAN Department.  While the 
reaction to the nonproliferation Inter-Sessional Meeting ("ISM") and 
cooperation statement initiatives was positive, the proposal to 
create ISM working groups reportedly contradicts a current effort by 
ASEAN to reduce the number of its meetings.  More generally, the GVN 
views the ARF very positively as a confidence-building measure among 
its diverse members, particularly their military officials.  End 
summary. 
 
Support for U.S. Initiatives Possible 
------------------------------------- 
 
2. (SBU) On March 22, Poloff met with MFA ASEAN Department Assistant 
Director Vu Ho to deliver reftel points and proposals on U.S. 
initiatives for the upcoming ARF meeting in Helsinki.  Ho began by 
saying that he would report these initiatives to his leadership for 
a decision, and that the proposals would have to be discussed among 
the ASEAN members and considered at the next Senior Officials 
Meeting.  He then informally offered his own views on the 
initiatives.  In response to the proposal to establish an ISM on 
nonproliferation, Ho asked rhetorically, "If China and Singapore 
have agreed, then what can we do?"  He expressed surprise that 
Singapore had agreed to co-chair the proposed ISM without having 
first consulted with ASEAN members, "as they are supposed to do." 
 
3. (SBU) Concerning the creation of ISM working groups, Ho said such 
a move would run counter to a current ASEAN effort to streamline all 
ASEAN-related meetings, including the ARF.  "There are already too 
many meetings."  Also, working groups would have to operate 
according to the ASEAN consensus principle, which by necessity 
includes all ASEAN members, so the limit of ten members in a working 
group could be a problem.  Finally, Ho suggested that the Statement 
of Cooperation "could be worked out somehow." 
 
GVN Working on New ARF Initiatives for Next Year 
--------------------------------------------- --- 
 
4. (SBU) In addition to Ho himself, the GVN delegation to the 
Helsinki meeting will consist of a junior colleague from the ASEAN 
Department, a colonel from the Ministry of Defense and an official 
from the MFA's Consular Department.  The GVN will make no proposals 
at this meeting, but is thinking about several initiatives for 2008. 
 Preliminary ideas are an initiative to combat both the 
counterfeiting of valuable papers and credit card fraud, as well as 
a capacity-building initiative to address natural disasters at sea. 
Ho said both these ideas still need to be approved within the GVN 
interagency process. 
 
5. (SBU) At the upcoming meeting, the GVN delegation plans to share 
the GVN's experience in coping with a recent oil spill, focusing on 
the civilian-military cooperation aspect of the effort.  The oil 
spill occurred over one month ago off the Vietnam coast near Vung 
Tau Province.  The source of the oil remains unknown and clean-up 
efforts continue. 
 
GVN Supports the Current ARF Format 
----------------------------------- 
 
6. (SBU) According to Ho, the GVN considers the ARF to be a useful 
forum for a number of reasons.  For example, many countries 
participate, including small, medium and large "players." 
Additionally, the "freestyle" nature of the forum is a good format 
for dialogue.  Any government can be involved in a "comfortable 
way," with no pressure to intervene or to attend particular 
sessions.  Finally, it is the only forum in the region that 
discusses both traditional security issues and non-traditional 
issues such as avian influenza and smoke hazard. 
 
7. (SBU) ARF meetings are an occasion for "military people to gather 
and get to know each other," said Ho.  When the GVN first sent a 
delegation to attend the ARF, it sent a general dressed in uniform, 
carrying a prepared speech.  Now an army colonel attends, dressed in 
a business suit and carrying only some talking points.  While 
critics say the ARF is a "talk shop," it is the "ASEAN way."  It 
works well because it provides the time needed for people to get to 
know each other.  As an advantage of this format, Ho cited the ARF 
experience of the DPRK, whose delegates walked out of the first 
meeting they attended, but now they sit through until the end. 
There has also been an increasingly conciliatory tone to the ARF's 
statements on the South China Sea problem through the years. 
Summing up, Ho said the ARF is a good confidence-building measure as 
long as the participants are moving in tandem on a consensus basis. 
He compared the ARF to a supermarket where "people can come and get 
what they want."  As a "cross between the UN and a regional talk 
shop/seminar," the ARF is useful as a "place to express yourself." 
 
MARINE