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Viewing cable 06HANOI3033, DURING HANOI VISIT, UNHCR COMMENTS ON 42 VIETNAMESE H'MONG

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Reference ID Created Released Classification Origin
06HANOI3033 2006-12-19 08:16 2011-08-25 00:00 UNCLASSIFIED//FOR OFFICIAL USE ONLY Embassy Hanoi
VZCZCXRO8507
RR RUEHCHI RUEHDT RUEHHM
DE RUEHHI #3033 3530816
ZNR UUUUU ZZH
R 190816Z DEC 06
FM AMEMBASSY HANOI
TO RUEHC/SECSTATE WASHDC 4144
INFO RUEHHM/AMCONSUL HO CHI MINH 2251
RUEHZS/ASEAN REGIONAL FORUM COLLECTIVE
RUEHGV/USMISSION GENEVA 1155
UNCLAS HANOI 003033 
 
SIPDIS 
 
SENSITIVE 
SIPDIS 
 
STATE FOR EAP/MLS AND PRM, BANGKOK FOR REFUGEE COORDINATOR, GENEVA 
FOR RMA 
 
E.O. 12958: N/A 
TAGS: PREL PGOV PHUM HUMANR PREF VM
SUBJECT:  DURING HANOI VISIT, UNHCR COMMENTS ON 42 VIETNAMESE H'MONG 
DETAINED IN BANGKOK 
 
Summary 
------- 
 
1. (SBU) According to a UNHCR official in Hanoi, Thai authorities 
have reportedly threatened to deport 42 Vietnamese ethnic H'mong 
recently arrested in Thailand.  UNHCR is negotiating a solution with 
the Vietnamese and Thai MFAs calling for third-party resettlement. 
All parties appear to accept this solution and desire to maintain a 
"low profile" on this case.  UNHCR says the group members qualify 
for refugee status and sees the United States and New Zealand as 
likely destination countries.  UNHCR plans to submit these cases to 
both governments shortly for review.  End Summary. 
 
Vietnamese H'mong among Laotians Arrested in Bangkok 
--------------------------------------------- ------- 
 
2. (SBU) On the margins of a briefing on UNHCR activities in Vietnam 
(septel) on December 15, UNHCR Bangkok Senior Policy Officer 
Giuseppe de Vicentis explained his concern about the situation of 42 
Vietnamese ethnic H'mong detained in Bangkok.  On November 26, Thai 
authorities raided a H'mong shelter and arrested 194 individuals 
with the intention to deport them to Laos.  193 currently remain in 
detention in Thailand; one case was processed for resettlement. 
Most of these H'mong had already been screened by UNHCR and some had 
fully processed Refugee Status Determinations (RSDs).  De Vincentis 
told us that Thai authorities had presumed that all the H'mong in 
the shelter were Laotian, but upon examination, they realized that 
42 were actually Vietnamese H'mong, and only 152 individuals 
originated in Laos.  UNHCR has confirmed that the Vietnamese H'mong 
are from the northern Vietnam-China border provinces of Lao Cai and 
Ha Giang.  These individuals qualify as refugees on the grounds of 
"religious and ethnic discrimination," and were awaiting their final 
UNHCR status determinations, De Vicentis said. 
 
3. (SBU) De Vicentis explained that Thai authorities have divided 
the group and taken the Lao H'mong to a detention facility at the 
Thai-Lao border.  The 42 Vietnamese H'mong, comprising only nine 
families, remain in Bangkok along with 15 other Vietnamese H'mong 
who were not arrested.  Thai authorities have since contacted the 
Vietnamese Ambassador in Bangkok and informed him of their intention 
to deport the group back to Vietnam.  De Vicentis stated that UNHCR 
is trying to resolve this issue quickly and plans to lodge a formal 
protest if the Government of Thailand appears to be proceeding with 
the deportation. 
 
GVN Supports a Third-Party Resettlement Solution 
--------------------------------------------- --- 
 
4. (SBU) De Vincentis told us that he met with the Government of 
Vietnam's (GVN) MFA Consular Department Director General Bui Dinh 
Dzinh in Hanoi on December 15 in order to "raise the profile of this 
case" and come up with a solution agreeable to Hanoi, Bangkok and 
the UNHCR.  Dzinh reportedly told De Vincentis that the GVN would 
prefer to avoid deportation of the Vietnamese H'mong.  However, the 
GVN would "welcome" the 57 Vietnamese H'mong individuals if they 
wish to return voluntarily.  De Vicentis added that the GVN prefers 
a third-party resettlement solution.  UNHCR also wants to keep this 
case "low profile" and not "politicize" the issue, while resolving 
the humanitarian aspects of the case, De Vicentis added. 
 
A Negotiated Solution? 
---------------------- 
 
5. (SBU) De Vicentis told us that the Thai government is likely 
amenable to a negotiated third-country resettlement solution for the 
57 Vietnamese H'mong.  While Thailand is not a signatory to the 1951 
UN Convention on Refugees, De Vicentis said the Thai government 
typically does not forcibly deport refugees, despite its threats to 
do so in this case.  Concerning potential resettlement, UNHCR judges 
that there are no grounds for a problem with "material support for 
terrorism" regulations for processing these cases and plans to 
submit them to U.S. Government refugee authorities in Bangkok and to 
the New Zealand Government (which has informally committed to take 
some of the refugees). 
 
ALOISI