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Viewing cable 06BUENOSAIRES2580, SECRETARY'S S&T ADVISER VISITS ARGENTINA

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06BUENOSAIRES2580 2006-11-17 21:00 2011-08-25 00:00 UNCLASSIFIED//FOR OFFICIAL USE ONLY Embassy Buenos Aires
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UNCLAS BUENOS AIRES 002580 
 
SIPDIS 
 
SENSITIVE 
SIPDIS 
 
DEPARTMENT FOR STAS DR. GEORGE ATKINSON; WHA/BSC; AND ECA 
 
E.O. 12958: N/A 
TAGS: TSPL SCUL OEXC OSCI
SUBJECT: SECRETARY'S S&T ADVISER VISITS ARGENTINA 
 
REF: A. BUENOS AIRES 02537 
     B. BUENOS AIRES 00707 
     C. BUENOS AIRES 01888 
 
1. (U) This cable is sensitive but unclassified, and not for 
Internet distribution. 
 
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Summary 
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2. (SBU) Science and Technology Adviser (STAS) to the 
Secretary Dr. George Atkinson led a delegation of U.S. 
 
SIPDIS 
scientists and engineers on a visit to Argentina November 
7-9.  The delegation's aim was to conduct an informal and 
limited survey of Argentina's level of S&T attainment with an 
eye to determining Argentina's capabilities and priorities in 
S&T research and education, and potential as a participant in 
STAS' vision for a new collaborative relationship between 
universities, E.g. "Global Science Partnerships for the 21st. 
Century (GSP21)."  Dr. Atkinson left impressed with 
Argentina's capabilities in many fields and the GOA 
enthusiasm for the GSP21 concept.  His visit garnered 
goodwill with the GOA and Argentine S&T community and 
positive media coverage.  He and post believe Argentina could 
be a solid GSP21 partner. 
 
3. (U) The following individuals comprised Dr. Atkinson's 
delegation:  Mr. Andrew Reynolds, Deputy S&T Adviser to the 
Secretary of State; Dr. Kim Boyer, WHA Jefferson Science 
 
SIPDIS 
Fellow; Dr. Lee Schwartz, the State Department Geographer; 
Dr. Ed Samulski, former Jefferson Science Fellow, University 
of North Carolina; Dr. Christina McCain, AAAS Fellow; Mr. 
Cung Vu, Technology Warning Division, Department of Defense; 
and Mr. Nathan Singh, University of Pennsylvania. 
 
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Why Argentina? 
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4. (U) Science and Technology Adviser to the Secretary (STAS) 
Dr. George Atkinson led a delegation of U.S. scientists on a 
visit to Argentina November 7-9.  Argentina was the third 
stop on a four-country trip (the others were Peru, Chile, and 
Brazil) undertaken before and after the fifth in a series of 
STAS' Global Dialogues on Science and Technology, in this 
case on the topic of Bioinformatics hosted by Brazil on 
November 12-15.  The delegation's aim was to conduct an 
informal and limited survey of Argentina's level of S&T 
attainment, in order to better appreciate Argentine S&T 
priorities in the future and related commitment to education 
and basic and applied research.  The visit also afforded an 
opportunity to discuss STAS' concept of a potential "Global 
Science Partnerships for the 21st. Century (GSP21)," to 
foster more extensive exchanges of students and possibly 
faculty between US and Argentine universities. 
 
5. (U) To that end, Atkinson and delegation members met with 
GOA Minister of Education, Science and Technology Daniel 
Filmus; Secretary of Science and Technology Tulio Del Bono; 
MFA Undersecretary for Foreign Policy Ambassador Luis 
Cappagli, the foreign ministry's third-ranking official; and 
with numerous other officials and practicing scientists in 
both the public and private sectors. 
 
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The State of Argentine S&T 
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6. (SBU) The Argentine state research organization (CONICET) 
provided Dr. Atkinson and the STAS delegation a series of 
presentations designed to give the visitors a broad view of 
the type of research now being conducted in Argentina.  The 
presentations highlighted the work of Argentine scientists 
and engineers in such fields as nanotechnology and laser 
development, and facilitated a good deal of 
scientist-to-scientist interaction.  The Embassy arranged the 
CONICET meetings because CONICET exercises some manner of 
control over virtually all Argentine scientific research. 
The organization boasts over 4,500 fulltime researchers, 
5,000 doctoral or post-doctoral fellows, and pays a portion 
of the salaries of all university-based researchers.  CONICET 
is also directly responsible for much of the available public 
funding for scientific research. 
 
7. (SBU) The delegation also met with representatives of 
high-tech and engineering firm INVAP (Reftel B).  INVAP is a 
leader in Argentine nuclear research and power production and 
space exploration.  The firm recently completed construction 
of a research reactor in Australia and is continuing work on 
the USD 270 million Aquarius/SAC-D satellite (a joint 
Argentine space agency (CONAE)-NASA project).  Director of 
the MFA,s Bureau for International Security and Nuclear and 
Space Affairs Elsa Kelly sat in on the meeting.  In a 
wide-ranging discussion regarding Argentina,s relative world 
position in nuclear power and space exploration, Kelly and 
INVAP President Dr. Hector Otheguy praised the Kirchner 
administration for its dedication to high-tech projects. 
Kelly said the late 1980s and 1990s, &were a nightmare for 
research and development and many of our brightest people 
lost interest.8 
 
8. (SBU) Otheguy expressed strong interest in becoming a NASA 
sub-contractor, though he recognized the significant legal 
and regulatory obstacles.  He told the delegation that 
INVAP,s priority in both nuclear and space technology is the 
development of international partnerships which demonstrate 
the reliability and economy of Argentine high-technology.  He 
said INVAP sees itself as both a competitor and potential 
sub-contractor to US nuclear and space firms. 
 
9. (SBU) In response to a question from Atkinson on 
Argentina,s intentions regarding the development of space 
launch capabilities (currently Argentine space-craft are 
launched from the U.S.), both Kelly and Otheguy were careful 
to say that Argentina is &fully committed to 
non-proliferation.8  On several occasions Kelly stated that 
any decision to develop space launch technology &would be 
made on a business model.8  She noted that there is a desire 
to develop such technology only insofar as a sound profit 
argument could be made.  Returning to nuclear power 
production, Otheguy stated that INVAP will help Argentine 
achieve its goal of 20% nuclear electrical power production, 
by bringing a third plant online by 2010 and a fourth by 2018 
(Reftel C). 
 
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A Frank Exchange 
---------------- 
 
10. (SBU) CONAE Executive and Technical Director Conrado 
Varotto used a meeting with Dr. Atkinson to passionately 
express his concern over the ITAR processes and its potential 
implications on further CONAE-NASA cooperation.  Returning 
again and again to the subject, Barotto said, &This is not 
the way to have a partnership,8 asking Atkinson in his role 
as STAS to, &use your imagination and come up with something 
new.8  After Dr. Atkinson asked him to be patient as the 
ITAR regime is in the process of being improved and 
streamlined, Varotto immediately jumped to the USG,s recent 
abstention in the Inter American Development Bank on a vote 
to extend Argentina a loan to expand Argentina,s remote 
Earth sensing capabilities. 
 
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GOA Wants to Move on the GSP21 Program 
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11. (SBU) The visit's defining moments occurred at a lunch 
hosted by Ambassador Wayne, at which Minister of Education, 
Science and Technology Daniel Filmus indicated he would 
support Argentina's participation in a GSP21 initiative, if 
one is forthcoming.  Filmus' affirmation came on the heels of 
a pledge by the GOA's Science and Technology Secretary, Tulio 
Del Bono, to financially support GSP21 if Argentina could be 
a partner nation.  Both men stressed Argentina's commitment 
to producing more scientists and engineers to make up for 
what they described as "disastrous" Argentine research and 
education policies of the past few decades.  The GOA has 
already moved to improve incentives to study science, Filmus 
said, explaining that money has been budgeted to fund 500 new 
CONICET research positions.  Del Bono said the GOA plans to 
eventually double the number of such positions, assuring Dr. 
Atkinson that any Argentine scientists who would study in the 
U.S. under a GSP21 program would have jobs to come home to. 
Del Bono guessed that Argentina would send between 100-200 
students per year to the U.S. under GSP21, a significant 
percentage of the total of the approximately 500 PhDs in 
science Argentines earn each year. 
 
12. (SBU) In other meetings, several heads of research 
institutions pursuing subjects ranging from costal marine 
ecology to astrophysics expressed a desire to see the USG use 
a program like GSP21 to provide a simplified route to 
studying in the U.S.  Numerous researchers noted that the 
complexity of the U.S. process often means their colleagues 
choose to go to Europe.  Martn Ramrez of the Museum of 
Natural Sciences noted that the British, French, and Germans 
all had a single office (in Buenos Aires) where prospective 
students and researchers could apply to schools, complete 
required testing (language, requisite subject exams, etc.), 
resolve financial support matters, and receive qualified 
instruction on visas and immigration law.  He commented that 
the difficulty of U.S. immigration law forced many 
researchers to look for opportunities outside the U.S. 
 
13. (SBU) Some officials registered their concerns over the 
possible ramifications of such a program, however, especially 
its potential to accelerate brain drain.  For example, 
CONICET Deputy Director Jorge Tezon noted that Argentines who 
study science and engineering in the US do not often return 
home to continue their work.  He also stated that in his 
experience, &doctoral candidates who go abroad for more than 
three years almost never come home.8  On the other hand, Dr. 
Atkinson also enjoyed a session with a number of Argentine 
Fulbright Scholars with scientific academic specialties who 
had returned to live and work in Argentina. 
 
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Good Press 
---------- 
 
14. (U) Journalists from five national newspapers, one 
broadcast television network, a radio station, and a weekly 
magazine covered a press conference organized by the 
Embassy's Public Affairs Section on November 8.  Dr. Atkinson 
related his impressions of Argentina and the GOA officials 
and scientists and engineers with whom he had met, while the 
journalists focused their questions on possible areas of S&T 
cooperation between the U.S. and Argentina.  The resulting 
placements were positive, and included pieces in national 
dailies La Nacion, Clarin, and La Prensa, as well as a story 
in the largest provincial newspaper in the country, the 
Cordoba-based La Voz del Interior.  In addition, Sunday 
newspaper Perfil interviewed Dr. Samulski as part of a story 
on nanotechnology.  The GSP21 concept was not discussed with 
the press. 
 
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Comment 
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15. (SBU) Dr. Atkinson was impressed by the Argentina's 
capabilities in many areas of science and engineering and by 
the enthusiasm GOA officials displayed for the GSP21 concept. 
 He remarked that Argentina could be an excellent partner, 
particularly as the GOA is already taking concrete steps to 
improve prospects for employing Argentine scientists and 
engineers in the future.  Reftel A detailed the Embassy's 
recommendation for timely consideration of Argentine possible 
participation in a program like GSP21.  The U.S. has long 
enjoyed excellent science and technology cooperation with 
Argentina, and it seems prudent to do what we can to ensure a 
similarly positive future.  Further discussion with Argentina 
on a GSP21 initiative would go a long way toward that goal. 
 
6. Deputy STAS Reynolds cleared on this cable. 
WAYNE