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Viewing cable 06SANTIAGO315, CHILE: A/S DESUTTER HOLDS VERIFICATION VIDEO

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Reference ID Created Released Classification Origin
06SANTIAGO315 2006-02-13 20:45 2011-08-25 00:00 UNCLASSIFIED Embassy Santiago
VZCZCXYZ0000
RR RUEHWEB

DE RUEHSG #0315/01 0442045
ZNR UUUUU ZZH
R 132045Z FEB 06
FM AMEMBASSY SANTIAGO
TO RUEHC/SECSTATE WASHDC 8471
INFO RUEHBR/AMEMBASSY BRASILIA 3070
RUEHBU/AMEMBASSY BUENOS AIRES 2910
RUEHCV/AMEMBASSY CARACAS 0859
UNCLAS SANTIAGO 000315 
 
SIPDIS 
 
SIPDIS 
 
E.O. 12958: N/A 
TAGS: KNNP ETTC MARR PARM PINR PREL PGOV CI
SUBJECT: CHILE: A/S DESUTTER HOLDS VERIFICATION VIDEO 
TELECONFERENCE WITH CHILEAN ACADEMICS 
 
REF: 05 SANTIAGO 1885 
 
1. Summary: Assistant Secretary of State for Verification, 
Compliance and Implementation (VCI) Paula DeSutter spoke with 
22 Chilean academics about regional threats and U.S. efforts 
to strengthen effective arms control regimes at an 
Embassy-hosted digital video conference on January 23.  A/S 
DeSutter discussed the role of the VCI bureau, USG concerns 
about Iran, and Chile's important role as a credible 
independent voice on compliance issues.  A/S DeSutter 
emphasized that distance cannot fully insulate Chile from the 
negative security consequences if Iran's noncompliance is not 
adequately addressed.  The ranking Chilean interlocutor said 
Chile's cooperation on compliance-related issues would 
continue under Michelle Bachelet.  End summary 
 
2. Assistant Secretary of State for Verification, Compliance 
and Implementation (VCI) Paula DeSutter spoke with 22 Chilean 
academics about regional threats and U.S. efforts to 
strengthen effective arms control regimes at an 
Embassy-hosted digital video conference on January 23. 
Guillermo Holzmann, Director of the University of Chile's 
Center for Strategy, Security and Defense, was the ranking 
Chilean interlocutor.  Academics from the University of 
Chile, Catholic  University, ARCIS University, National 
Political and Strategic Academy (ANEPE), Chilean Air Force 
Academy, and the Naval Academy also participated in the 
event. 
 
3. A/S DeSutter explained that the VCI Bureau is responsible 
for preparing the President's Annual Noncompliance Report to 
Congress, which carefully assesses international compliance 
with a number of treaties, including the Nuclear 
Nonproliferation Treaty (NPT).  Explaining U.S. support for 
reporting Iran's nuclear programs to the UNSC, A/S DeSutter 
noted the U.S. has been concerned about Iran's nuclear 
intentions for ten years.  Iran has become bolder, "seeming 
to believe it is above the law."  A/S DeSutter argued the 
clearest evidence of Iran's noncompliance with the NPT and 
its safeguards obligations can be found in the International 
Atomic Energy Agency's (IAEA) Board of Governors' reports on 
the IAEA web site.  She said Iran has taken all the benefits 
of being a party to the NPT, including gaining technical 
nuclear assistance from other nations, and thus has taken 
advantage of a false image that it is a "responsible country." 
 
4. Holzmann asked about the possibility of having effective 
verification regimes.  A/S DeSutter explained that a number 
of "national means and methods" are available for treaty 
verification purposes, such as commercial satellite imagery. 
The value of on-site inspections is often overstated, since 
they only provide information about activities in a certain 
place at a certain time.  A/S DeSutter offered the analogy of 
welcoming her mother-in-law to visit but only letting her 
inspect the housekeeping in two of the least-used rooms so 
the mother-in-law would have a high opinion of her 
housekeeping abilities.  Verification depends on good will 
and responsible efforts by all participants in the system. 
 
5. One of the Chilean participants commented that Chile was 
geographically far from Iran, implying that it was safe.  A/S 
DeSutter replied that distance cannot fully insulate Chile 
from the negative security consequences, if Iran's 
noncompliance is not adequately addressed.  She noted that 
Chile's voice has weight precisely because it is not near 
Iran, and that Chile's history of supporting long-standing 
international treaties and agreements makes Chile's voice 
credible on arms control issues.  The USG is concerned the 
lesson other countries take from Iran's behavior is that 
noncompliance offers benefits.  A more positive example, A/S 
DeSutter explained, was Libya's realization that weapons of 
mass destruction (WMD) actually made the country less, not 
more, secure.  The U.S. wants to encourage other nations to 
realize that having WMD actually reduces their security. 
 
6. In response to a question about "regional problems," A/S 
DeSutter said the U.S. was following recent statements by 
Venezuela "with interest."  On Cuba, she explained there were 
"differences" within the USG about evidence of a Cuban 
biological weapons program.  On Brazil, A/S DeSutter said the 
U.S. and Brazil maintained a dialogue regarding Brazil's 
nuclear programs, but the U.S. did not see anything which 
indicated noncompliance.  A/S DeSutter noted that it seemed 
Brazil "wants to be a serious player." 
 
7. A/S DeSutter asked if the January election of Michelle 
Bachelet as Chile's next president would have an impact on 
Chile's policies.  Dr. Holzmann noted that President-elect 
Bachelet has training in security issues, as a former 
Minister of Defense of Chile and graduate from the National 
 
Defense University in the U.S.  Dr. Holzmann said he expected 
continued bilateral cooperation and stability, and that the 
GOC's regional policies would be maintained.  He added that 
there were "more possibilities" for continued efforts in 
Haiti, and that Chile was concerned by threats to democracy 
in the region, naming Venezuela, Bolivia, Peru, and also 
Colombia. 
 
8. This cable has been cleared by A/S DeSutter. 
KELLY