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Viewing cable 03HOCHIMINHCITY337, CHURCH AND STATE MAINTAIN BALANCE IN TAY NINH PROVINCE

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03HOCHIMINHCITY337 2003-04-08 11:21 2011-08-25 00:00 UNCLASSIFIED//FOR OFFICIAL USE ONLY Consulate Ho Chi Minh City
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UNCLAS SECTION 01 OF 04 HO CHI MINH CITY 000337 
 
SIPDIS 
 
SENSITIVE 
 
DEPARTMENT FOR EAP/BCLTV AND DRL 
 
E. O. 12958: N/A 
TAGS: PGOV ECON PHUM PREL ETRD EINV VM HUMANR RELFREE
SUBJECT: CHURCH AND STATE MAINTAIN BALANCE IN TAY NINH PROVINCE 
 
REF:  A)  02 HANOI 199,   B)  02 HANOI 208 
 
Summary 
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1.  (U)  On a recent one-day trip to meet with provincial and Cao 
Dai Church leaders in Tay Ninh Province, the Ambassador came away 
with a mostly positive impression of the current state of health 
of both the province and the religion which predominates there. 
Tay Ninh, while still on the fringes of the relative prosperity 
enjoyed by HCMC and some of its other surrounding provinces, has a 
leadership clearly committed to economic growth and development. 
And as the largest single "constituency" within the province, the 
Cao Dai appear to be benefiting from that commitment -- despite a 
continued inability to fill their own senior ranks.  Our 
impression was that the Cao Dai faithful are freely practicing 
their syncretic religion, with even some expansion in their 
numbers, but as is the case with all religions in Vietnam, the 
state and party maintain tight control over the religion's 
organization and personnel.  End Summary. 
 
Cao Dai Worship Little Changed in 30 Years 
------------------------------------------ 
2.  (U)  The Ambassador recently returned to Tay Ninh Province, on 
the western border of HCMC, for the first time since his 1970-1973 
tour of duty as a junior officer in Vietnam.  During that 
assignment, he was responsible for covering the Cao Dai -- 
Vietnam's homegrown syncretic religion -- out of Embassy Saigon's 
political section.  Upon entering the Cao Dai Holy See for the 
noon service, he remarked that very little seemed to have changed 
in either the physical or spiritual setting.  Men and woman seated 
in neat rows on opposite sides of the long rectangular floor of 
the hall bowed their heads in prayer to a steady beat of gongs and 
chanting as incense filled the air. 
 
3.  (U)  Immediately noticeable, however, were the empty chairs 
closest to the altar reserved for the top church hierarchy -- the 
Pope and Cardinals.  Empty too were the spots on the floor where 
the archbishops would normally kneel in prayer.  (The floor of the 
temple rises progressively through nine levels as it approaches 
the sacred altar.  Clergy sit in prayer on the level corresponding 
to their rank.)  Otherwise, the service appeared to be well 
attended.  While a fair number of young people were spotted among 
the worshippers, most of the clergy were well into their 60s.  The 
stunningly decorated temple, painted every year, looked very well 
maintained. 
 
Lonely at the Top, but Not Really Alone 
--------------------------------------- 
4.  (SBU)  After the service, the Ambassador took a guided tour of 
the temple with the head of the Cao Dai Management Council, 
Archbishop Thuong Tam Thanh.  While Thanh had been reluctant to 
meet with ConGenoffs last year without prior approval from the 
provincial People's Committee (ref A), he seemed happy to meet 
with the Ambassador on this officially sanctioned trip.  The 
Archbishop was animated and upbeat, although he became rather 
wistful when describing the significance of the vacant chairs and 
unoccupied spaces on the floor.  He noted that he was one of only 
a handful of clergy at his rank who was still alive.  There were 
supposed to be 33 archbishops at any given time, in keeping with a 
religious doctrine heavily influenced by numerology. 
 
5.  (SBU)  Continuing the discussion in his nearby office suite, 
the Archbishop adopted the disconcerting habit of writing down 
everything the Ambassador said, despite the presence of others in 
the large, open-air meeting room serving as note takers.  At least 
a few individuals in the room gave both Ambassador and Poloff the 
impression that they represented the interests of the GVN more 
than those of the Cao Dai.  The more restrained and formulaic 
nature of the Archbishop's answers in the office tended to 
buttress that conclusion.  Still, he did openly thank the 
Ambassador for the invitation to last year's Consulate General 
July 4th celebration. 
 
Church Flourishes While Leadership Withers 
------------------------------------------- 
6.  (SBU)  Early in the conversation, the Archbishop gestured off 
in the distance at the many structures that had been built during 
the intervening years since the Ambassador's first tour.  "All of 
this did not happen in one or two years," he said.  He claimed a 
current total of 5 million Cao Dai adherents in Vietnam -- 
significantly higher than the GVN figure of 1-2 million, or even 
NGO estimates of 2-3 million -- with the numbers constantly on the 
rise.  Four hundred thousand Cao Dai make Tay Ninh home, but many 
others come to worship regularly, including hundreds of thousands 
who returned on January 9 and August 15 of each lunar year for the 
two main Cao Dai festivals. 
 
7.  (SBU)  The Archbishop was less optimistic about the prospects 
for filling the senior ranks of the clergy  because of the 
unfortunate confluence of old age and limited opportunities for 
promotion.  As one of the conditions for GVN recognition in 1997, 
exclusive power to make promotion decisions was vested in the 
newly created Management Council.  The Management Council meets 
only once every five years.  While seances had sometimes been used 
in the past to determine promotions -- a practice outlawed by the 
GVN as "superstitious" -- selection by high-ranking clergy had 
always existed as an alternative.  Promotion decisions at present 
are based solely on experience and seniority; no one is allowed to 
skip a rank.  Given the advanced age of most of the higher-ranking 
clergy and the fact that they can only be promoted one rank every 
five years, this protracted rate of advancement virtually 
guarantees that the highest positions will probably remain vacant 
for some time to come. 
 
8.  (SBU)  According to the Archbishop, amalgamating the three 
bodies of Cao Dai clergy -- red, blue, and yellow (legislative, 
executive, and charitable works) -- into a single Management 
Council was a by-product of the same limitations.  Traditionally, 
each of the three branches was supposed to have 12 archbishops and 
one cardinal.  However, with only two congresses since 1975 and no 
way to skip ranks, it was clear that there just would not be 
sufficient numbers of senior clergy to meet this requirement.  In 
their absence, the Management Council had been created to provide 
the necessary structure for managing the activities of the church. 
The 72 members, all high-ranking clergy, were elected every five 
years at the same congresses which decided promotions.  (Over 3000 
Cao Dai leaders and government officials from 34 provinces and 
HCMC attended the October 2002 "Human Life Congress," promoting 
924 clergy, including the Archbishop.) 
 
9.  (SBU)  The Archbishop did not attempt to justify the new 
system or compare it to the old model.  Mostly, he just seemed 
resigned to it.  While he recognized that some Cao Dai, including 
a number in the U.S., did not appreciate the need for a Management 
Council or were unhappy over their exclusion, he noted that all 
religion requires discipline and law.  (The Archbishop later asked 
about the possibility of applying for a visa to meet with Cao Dai 
officials in the U.S. in the future.)  The Archbishop also 
acknowledged that while the structure was meant to unify all 13 
branches of the Cao Dai, some of the smaller sects had always 
remained separate from the main Tay Ninh branch.  Groups which 
existed outside the Council were not official in GVN eyes, but 
generally continued to pursue their activities without 
interference.  He resisted criticizing retired pre-1975 Cao Dai 
leaders Archbishop Thai The Thanh and Archbishop Thuong Nha Thanh 
(ref B), but clearly disagreed with their decisions to "abandon 
service" to the Cao Dai faithful. 
 
10.  (SBU)  Minimizing the intrusiveness of government regulation, 
the Archbishop dismissed concerns of GVN control over ordination 
of new clergy -- a common complaint of other religions in Vietnam. 
After all, the Cao Dai themselves, not the GVN, required 
verification of "good citizenship" from the relevant local 
authorities before candidates were considered for the priesthood. 
He was unable to explain why the Cao Dai had not expressed more 
interest in political activities, especially in the province where 
they were most numerous.  While he himself had once been a 
National Assembly member, the Archbishop could think of no other 
Cao Dai active in national or local politics. 
 
Confiscation by Another Name 
---------------------------- 
11.  (SBU)  Downplaying another common grievance of other 
religions in Vietnam -- post-war confiscations of property -- the 
Archbishop tried to rationalize the "borrowing of unused" Cao Dai 
properties by the Fatherland Front in 1975.  He said whenever the 
Cao Dai needed a property back, they merely had to provide a 
justification and it was returned.  There are currently 600 Cao 
Dai temples nationwide, by his count.  His resolve wavered just a 
bit when the Ambassador reminisced about the highly regarded 
educational institutions once operated by the Cao Dai, including 
the former university which had been converted to a cadre training 
school.  However, the Archbishop quickly pointed out that unlike 
the Protestant and Catholic religions, the Cao Dai church had 
never relied on seminaries to train its clergy.  Those who showed 
promising academic qualifications and wished to devote their lives 
to the Cao Dai faith were brought to the temple for bible study. 
Success was then based on their actual work record, rather than 
any sort of book learning.  Education was never a determining 
factor in promotions. 
 
People's Committee Upbeat on Economic Fundamentals 
--------------------------------------------- ----- 
12.  (SBU) In a separate meeting (in the same compound used by the 
provincial government before 1975), People's Committee Chairman 
Nguyen Tan Lam urged the Ambassador to encourage American business 
investment in Tay Ninh, a province of approximately one million. 
While the province had yet to feel much impact from the BTA, he 
boasted of an 11.7 percent overall increase in GDP, with 10 
percent across the board growth in industrial production, 
agriculture, and services.  Industrial output accounted for 34 
percent of GDP, but tourism was also a major source of revenue. 
One hundred percent of the province was already electrified, with 
80 percent hooked up to the national power grid.  The roads to all 
villages in the province were paved, although some hamlets were 
still connected by dirt roads.  Clinics manned by physicians 
served every district.  To staff new businesses, Tay Ninh produced 
3000 high school graduates last year, with 1550 passing the 
national university entrance exam.  Overall, one third of all 
school-age children attend school. 
 
13.  (SBU)  According to the Chairman, the province had attracted 
a total of 50 FDI projects, valued at US$240 million.  Twenty- 
seven projects, worth US$40 million, were invested at the 700- 
hectare Trang Bang Industrial Park, near the border with HCMC. 
With Trang Bang nearly 70 percent full, the province was directing 
new investment to the much larger Moc Bai Economic Zone.  Moc Bai, 
located near the Cambodian border, is the eventual crossing point 
for the Trans-Asia Highway, connecting HCMC with Cambodia and 
points west.  Vietnam's portion of the highway was expected to be 
finished this March, but investors recently extended the deadline 
to July.  The Chairman predicted that progress on the Cambodian 
side of the border would be much slower.  Tay Ninh shares a 240- 
kilometer border with Cambodia. 
 
Church and State in Harmony 
--------------------------- 
14.  (SBU)  Asked to comment by Chairman Lam on the changes he had 
observed on this first trip back in 30 years, the Ambassador cited 
the empty ranks at the top of the Cao Dai hierarchy and the new 
organizational structure.  The role of the Fatherland Front in 
coordinating how the Cao Dai organized their affairs was another 
notable development.  He also regretted GVN restrictions on Cao 
Dai charitable activities, such as schools and orphanages, and 
wondered why there were no Cao Dai in positions of authority in 
the local government when they made up some 40 percent of the 
population.  On the bright side, he praised the familiar images of 
ordinary people continuing to practice their faith. 
 
15.  (SBU)  The Chairman was prepared with a number of statistics 
to show that the Cao Dai faith had actually grown under the GVN. 
The number of Cao Dai had increased from 35 to 40 percent of the 
provincial population since 1975, even as the total number of 
temples had grown from 25-95.  The number of high-ranking clergy 
increased from 1905 to 2144 during the same period, while the 
number of student priests rose from 1522 to 3480.  He was less 
convincing when he asserted that the issue of replacing the 
elderly clergy was entirely in the hands of the Cao Dai 
themselves. 
 
16.  (SBU)  While the Cao Dai had not generally participated in 
local political activities after 1975, Chairman Lam assured the 
Ambassador that the laws of Vietnam give everyone equal access to 
leadership positions.  Some Cao Dai had been active in local 
People's Councils since 1986, and he thought it entirely possible 
that a Cao Dai could one day serve as a district Chairman. 
Despite the current lack of Cao Dai adherents in important 
positions, he pointed to Tay Ninh as a place where there was great 
unity between the religious and the secular.  The Chairman also 
praised the Cao Dai for their assistance to flood victims and 
orphans in the recent past. 
 
Comment 
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17.  (SBU)  Amidst Tay Ninh's relative political stability, 
there's little doubt that the province is well positioned to 
benefit economically from its proximity to HCMC.  Decent roads, or 
at least roads that appeared to be under active construction, led 
to and from HCMC.  Immediate economic returns from improved 
overland access to the rest of mainland Southeast Asia are less of 
a sure thing.  Tourism, while it will continue to be a big draw, 
needs to avoid the temptation of appealing to the lowest common 
denominator.  A steady stream of Western and Asian tourists visit 
the temple each day during the noon service, a staple for 
inexpensive tours from HCMC.  Paving over the greenery and 
blasting loud music from cheaply constructed souvenir and food 
stalls, however, is not going to attract a sustained influx of big- 
spending Western tourists. 
 
18.  (SBU)  The Archbishop was careful not to express openly any 
disagreement with the Management Committee structure, but the 
empty ranks at the top of his religion's hierarchy is obviously a 
source of frustration and concern.  For his part, the Chairman of 
the People's Committee seems to realize the importance of 
cultivating relations with the Cao Dai, a job made easier by the 
fact that the church leadership has completely lost its pre-1975 
role as a political entity.  Our impression during this short 
visit to Tay Ninh was that the Cao Dai religion is now treated 
much the same as Buddhism and Catholicism: worship is fully 
tolerated, the numbers of the faithful even allowed to expand 
somewhat, but the party and state maintain tight control over the 
religion's organizational structure. 
YAMAUCHI