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Viewing cable 01HOCHIMINHCITY460, COMMUNIST PARTY LEADERSHIP CHANGES IN THE SOUTHERN PROVINCES (PART 2)

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01HOCHIMINHCITY460 2001-04-23 04:51 2011-08-25 00:00 UNCLASSIFIED Consulate Ho Chi Minh City
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230451Z Apr 01

2001HOCHI00460 - UNCLASSIFIED
 
 
 
                           UNCLASSIFIED     PTQ6917

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FM AMCONSUL HO CHI MINH CITY
TO SECSTATE WASHDC 4929
INFO AMEMBASSY HANOI 
AMCONSUL HONG KONG 
ASEAN COLLECTIVE
USCINCPAC HONOLULU HI
JICPAC HONOLULU HI
SECDEF WASHDC
DIA WASHDC
NSC WASHDC
DEPTTREAS WASHDC
USDOC WASHDC
UNCLAS SECTION 01 OF 03 HO CHI MINH CITY 000460 
 
SIPDIS 
 
STATE FOR EAP/BCLTV AND EAP/PD/JMARTIN 
STATE ALSO FOR INR/EAP/SEA AND INR/IL/B 
CINCPAC FOR FPA 
SECDEF FOR ISA/EA/LSTERN 
                       UNCLASSIFIED 
 
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NSC FOR GENE CHRISTY 
DEPTTREAS FOR AJEWELL 
USDOC FOR 4431/MAC/AP/OKSA/HPPHO 
 
E.O. 12958: N/A 
TAGS: PGOV PINR VM DPOL
SUBJECT: COMMUNIST PARTY LEADERSHIP CHANGES IN THE SOUTHERN PROVINCES (PART 2) 
 
REF:  A. 00 HCMC 0231  B. 00 HCMC 0230 
 
1. SUMMARY: AS THE DE FACTO POLICY-SETTERS IN THE PROVINCES, 
PROVINCIAL COMMUNIST PARTY COMMITTEE LEADERS DETERMINE TO A 
LARGE DEGREE WHETHER THEIR RESPECTIVE PROVINCES ARE 
PROGRESSIVE OR BACKWARD LOOKING.  COMMUNIST PARTY CONGRESSES 
HELD IN THE 29 SOUTHERN AND CENTRAL PROVINCES AND CITIES 
(HCMC AND DANANG) IN DECEMBER AND JANUARY WERE THE FIRST 
PARTY CONGRESSES TO TAKE PLACE SINCE CONGEN OPENED, 
PROVIDING POST'S FIRST OPPORTUNITY TO EXAMINE NEW PROVINCIAL 
PARTY LEADERSHIP TEAMS.  WOMEN AND MINORITIES REMAIN 
SUBSTANTIALLY UNDER-REPRESENTED AT THESE HIGHEST POLICY- 
SETTING POSITIONS.  INDIVIDUALS HOLDING TOP POSITIONS AMONG 
PROVINCIAL PARTY COMMITTEES, PEOPLE'S COMMITTEES, AND 
PEOPLE'S COUNCIL DEMONSTRATE THE INTERLOCKING RELATIONSHIP 
BETWEEN THESE AGENCIES (DISCUSSED IN PARA THREE).  END 
SUMMARY. 
 
2. SEPTEL LISTS THE NEW PROVINCIAL PARTY LEADERS PROVINCE BY 
PROVINCE.  THIS REPORT EXAMINES THE CHANGES IN PROVINCIAL 
PARTY LEADERSHIP IN TERMS OF DEMOGRAPHIC CHARACTERISTICS AND 
CAREER PROGRESSION FOR INDIVIDUALS.  POST PROVIDED A SIMILAR 
                       UNCLASSIFIED 
 
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SUMMARY OF PROVINCIAL PEOPLE'S COMMITTEE LEADERSHIP CHANGES 
AND ANALYSIS IN JANUARY 2000 (REFTELS). 
 
PARTY, PEOPLE'S COMMITTEE, AND PEOPLE'S COUNCIL NEXUS 
--------------------------------------------- -------- 
3. AT THE PROVINCIAL LEVEL OF GOVERNANCE, THE PARTY 
COMMITTEE IS THE POLICY SETTING ORGAN, THE PEOPLE'S 
COMMITTEE IS THE ADMINISTRATIVE ORGAN, AND THE PEOPLE'S 
COUNCIL IS THE LEGISLATIVE ORGAN.  (NOTE: PEOPLE'S COUNCILS 
USUALLY MEET ONLY TWICE A YEAR, AND THEIR SESSIONS GENERALLY 
LAST ONLY A FEW DAYS.)  POST HAD NOTICED ON PROVINCIAL TRIPS 
THAT ONE INDIVIDUAL WOULD OFTEN HOLD TWO POSITIONS AMONG 
THESE THREE ORGANS.  EXAMINATION OF THE DATA IN SEPTEL 
CLEARLY DEMONSTRATES THIS NEXUS: THE SECRETARY OF THE 
PROVINCIAL PARTY COMMITTEE IS THE HIGHEST-RANKING OF THE 
THREE, AND USUALLY HOLDS NO CONCURRENT POSITIONS.  THE 
STANDING (I.E., SENIOR MOST) DEPUTY SECRETARY OF THE 
PROVINCIAL PARTY COMMITTEE IS USUALLY THE CONCURRENT 
CHAIRMAN OF THE PROVINCIAL PEOPLE'S COUNCIL.  THE DEPUTY 
SECRETARY OF THE PROVINCIAL PARTY COMMITTEE IS USUALLY THE 
 
SIPDIS 
CONCURRENT CHAIRMAN OF THE PROVINCIAL PEOPLE'S COMMITTEE. 
ALTHOUGH, THE STANDING DEPUTY SECRETARY OUTRANKS THE DEPUTY 
SECRETARY OF THE PARTY COMMITTEE IN TERMS OF THE PARTY'S 
 
SIPDIS 
HIERARCHY, THE DEPUTY SECRETARY BY MEANS OF HIS CONCURRENT 
POSITION AS PEOPLE'S COMMITTEE CHAIRMAN, MAY ACTUALLY BE 
MORE INFLUENTIAL.  MORE DEPUTY SECRETARIES THAN STANDING 
DEPUTY SECRETARIES ARE PROMOTED TO THE POSITION OF SECRETARY 
OF PROVINCIAL COMMUNIST PARTY COMMITTEES.  THE CONCURRENT 
POSITIONING OF THE SECOND- AND THIRD-RANKING PARTY OFFICIALS 
TO HEAD THE PEOPLE'S COUNCIL (LEGISLATIVE ORGAN) AND THE 
PEOPLE'S COMMITTEE (EXECUTIVE ORGAN) RESPECTIVELY, APPEARS 
                       UNCLASSIFIED 
 
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TO BE A MECHANISM TO ENSURE INTERAGENCY COORDINATION AS WELL 
AS PARTY SUPREMACY. 
 
PROVINCIAL PARTY SECRETARIES 
---------------------------- 
 
4. IN THE 29 PROVINCES AND TWO CITIES IN VIETNAM'S SOUTH AND 
CENTER, 11 PARTY COMMITTEE SECRETARIES ARE INCUMBENT IN 
THEIR POSITION, AND 18 ARE NEWLY SELECTED (TWO PROVINCES DID 
NOT PROVIDE THAT INFORMATION).  ALL 31 SECRETARIES ARE MEN 
AND THE AVERAGE AGE IS 54 YEARS OLD, WITH THE OLDEST 60 AND 
THE YOUNGEST 47 YEARS OLD.  THERE IS NO SIGNIFICANT 
DIFFERENCE IN AGE BETWEEN INCUMBENTS AND NEW SECRETARIES. 
THREE ARE MEMBERS OF ETHNIC MINORITY GROUPS.  ONE HOLDS A 
PH.D.  NINE HAVE B.A. DEGREES (TWO HAVE TWO B.A.S). 
INFORMATION ON EDUCATIONAL LEVELS WAS UNAVAILABLE FOR THE 
OTHER 21 PROVINCIAL PARTY SECRETARIES.  (NOTE: FROM 
UNOFFICIAL SOURCES, POST HEARD THAT ONE OF THE SECRETARIES 
HAS ONLY AN ELEMENTARY SCHOOL EDUCATION.  IT WOULD BE NO 
SURPRISE TO LEARN THAT MOST PROVINCIAL PARTY SECRETARIES 
HAVE LOW FORMAL EDUCATION LEVELS, SINCE MOST MEMBERS OF 
THEIR GENERATION SPENT THEIR YOUTH IN THE MILITARY RATHER 
THAN IN SCHOOL.  PROVINCIAL LEADERS ALSO OFTEN ATTEND 
POLITICAL INSTITUTES PART-TIME FROM WHICH THEY ARE AWARDED 
"DEGREES."  THIS ANALYSIS DID NOT INCLUDE THESE ACADEMIC 
CREDENTIALS.   END NOTE.) 
 
5. ONLY SEVEN OF 26 PROVINCIAL PARTY SECRETARIES WHO 
PROVIDED THE INFORMATION HAD SERVED PREVIOUSLY AS SECOND 
RANKING STANDING DEPUTY SECRETARIES.  TWELVE HAD SERVED 
PREVIOUSLY AS THIRD RANKING DEPUTY SECRETARIES AND/OR 
PROVINCIAL PEOPLE'S COMMITTEE CHAIRMEN.  FOUR HAD SERVED 
PREVIOUSLY IN CENTRAL PARTY POSITIONS IN HANOI AND WERE 
APPOINTED PROVINCIAL PARTY SECRETARY BY THE POLITBURO. 
THREE SERVED IN OTHER POSITIONS BEFORE BECOMING PARTY 
SECRETARY.  FIFTEEN OF 28 PROVINCIAL PARTY SECRETARIES WHO 
 
SIPDIS 
PROVIDED THE INFORMATION DO NOT HOLD ANY CONCURRENT 
POSITION.  THIRTEEN CONCURRENTLY HOLD THE POSITION OF 
CHAIRMAN OF THE PROVINCIAL PEOPLE'S COUNCIL, BUT EIGHT OF 
THESE PLAN TO RELINQUISH THAT POSITION IN THE NEAR FUTURE TO 
THE STANDING DEPUTY PARTY SECRETARY.  (POST BELIEVES THE 
REMAINING FIVE WILL ALSO LIKELY RELINQUISH THE CONCURRENT 
POSITION.) 
 
6. SINCE 18 PROVINCIAL PARTY SECRETARIES ARE NEW TO THE JOB, 
                       UNCLASSIFIED 
 
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POST ASKED WHAT HAPPENED TO THE PREVIOUS SECRETARIES.  ONLY 
TWO PROVINCES RESPONDED TO THAT QUESTION, AND SAID ONLY THAT 
THE PREVIOUS SECRETARY HAD RETIRED.  POST BELIEVES THAT 
OUTSIDE OF MAJOR CITIES AND PROVINCES, SERVING AS PROVINCIAL 
PARTY SECRETARY IS THE END OF THE CAREER LINE FOR MOST. 
 
STANDING DEPUTY SECRETARIES 
--------------------------- 
 
7. OF 18 STANDING DEPUTY SECRETARIES WHO PROVIDED THE 
INFORMATION, SIX HAD SERVED PREVIOUSLY AS HEAD OF THE 
PROVINCIAL PARTY COMMISSION FOR PROPAGANDA AND EDUCATION. 
FIVE HAD SERVED PREVIOUSLY AS THE HEAD OF THE PROVINCIAL 
PARTY COMMISSION ON PERSONNEL AND ORGANIZATION.  THREE HAD 
SERVED PREVIOUSLY AS CITY OR TOWN PARTY COMMITTEE 
SECRETARIES, AND TWO HAD SERVED IN OTHER PARTY POSITIONS. 
 
SIPDIS 
 
8. OF 22 STANDING DEPUTY SECRETARIES WHO PROVIDED THE 
INFORMATION, THREE ARE CONCURRENTLY CHAIRMEN OF THEIR 
RESPECTIVE PROVINCIAL PEOPLE'S COMMITTEES AND EIGHT ARE 
CONCURRENTLY CHAIRMEN OF THEIR RESPECTIVE PROVINCIAL 
PEOPLE'S COUNCILS.  ELEVEN HELD NO CONCURRENT POSITIONS, BUT 
EIGHT OF THESE EXPECT TO ASSUME THE POSITION OF CHAIRMAN OF 
PROVINCIAL PEOPLE'S COUNCIL IN THE NEAR FUTURE.  SIXTEEN OF 
22 EITHER SERVING OR EXPECTING TO SERVE CONCURRENTLY AS 
CHAIRMAN OF THE PROVINCIAL PEOPLE'S COUNCIL CONFIRMS THAT IT 
IS GENERAL PRACTICE FOR THE STANDING DEPUTY SECRETARY OF THE 
PROVINCIAL PARTY COMMITTEE TO SERVE CONCURRENTLY AS CHAIRMAN 
OF THE PROVINCIAL PEOPLE'S COUNCIL. 
 
DEPUTY SECRETARIES 
                       UNCLASSIFIED 
 
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------------------ 
 
9. OF 14 DEPUTY SECRETARIES WHO PROVIDED THE INFORMATION, 
NINE HAD SERVED PREVIOUSLY AS VICE-CHAIRMEN OF THEIR 
RESPECTIVE PROVINCIAL PEOPLE'S COMMITTEES.  THE OTHER FIVE 
HAD WORKED PREVIOUSLY IN A VARIETY OF GOVERNMENT AND/OR 
PARTY POSITIONS.  OF 25 WHO PROVIDED THE INFORMATION, 21 
DEPUTY SECRETARIES ARE SERVING CONCURRENTLY AS CHAIRMEN OF 
THEIR RESPECTIVE PROVINCIAL PEOPLE'S COMMITTEE (A 22ND 
EXPECT TO ASSUME THAT POSITION IN THE NEAR FUTURE).  TWO ARE 
SERVING CONCURRENTLY AS CHAIRMEN OF THEIR RESPECTIVE 
PROVINCIAL PEOPLE'S COUNCILS, AND ONE IS THE HEAD OF THE 
MANAGEMENT BOARD OF A PROVINCIAL OPEN ECONOMIC ZONE.  THIS 
CONFIRMS THAT IT IS GENERAL PRACTICE FOR THE DEPUTY 
SECRETARY OF THE PROVINCIAL PARTY COMMITTEE TO SERVE 
 
SIPDIS 
CONCURRENTLY AS CHAIRMAN OF THE PROVINCIAL PEOPLE'S 
COMMITTEE. 
 
DEPUTY AND STANDING DEPUTY SECRETARY DEMOGRAPHICS 
--------------------------------------------- ---- 
 
10. SINCE THERE WAS NO SIGNIFICANT VARIATION IN THE 
DEMOGRAPHICS BETWEEN DEPUTY AND STANDING DEPUTY SECRETARIES, 
THIS ANALYSIS LUMPS THEM TOGETHER.  OF 43 WHO PROVIDED THE 
INFORMATION, ONLY 11 ARE INCUMBENTS, WHILE 32 ARE NEW TO THE 
JOB.  THE AVERAGE AGE IS 52 YEARS OLD, WITH THE OLDEST 59 
AND THE YOUNGEST 46 YEARS OLD.  OF THE TOTAL OF 55, 52 ARE 
MEN AND ONLY 3 ARE WOMEN.  ONLY TWO ARE MEMBERS OF ETHNIC 
MINORITY GROUPS.  TWO HOLD M.A. DEGREES.  FIFTEEN HOLD 
B.A./B.S. DEGREES (SEVEN OF THESE HOLD MORE THAN ONE 
DEGREE).  ONE SAID HE WAS A HIGH SCHOOL GRADUATE.  MORE MAY 
HAVE UNIVERSITY DEGREES, BUT DIDN'T PROVIDE THE INFORMATION. 
AS IS THE CASE WITH THE PROVINCIAL PARTY SECRETARIES, FOR 
HISTORICAL REASONS IT IS LIKELY THAT MOST OF THE DEPUTY AND 
STANDING DEPUTY SECRETARIES HAVE LOW FORMAL EDUCATION 
LEVELS. 
 
COMMENT 
------- 
 
11. IT IS CLEAR FROM THE ABOVE, THAT WOMEN AND MINORITIES 
REMAIN UNDER-REPRESENTED AT THE HIGHEST PROVINCIAL POLICY- 
SETTING LEVELS.  OF 85 PROVINCIAL PARTY SECRETARIES, DEPUTY 
AND STANDING DEPUTY SECRETARIES, ONLY THREE ARE WOMEN AND 
FIVE ARE MEMBERS OF ETHNIC MINORITY GROUPS (ONE WOMAN IS 
                       UNCLASSIFIED 
 
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ALSO AN ETHNIC MINORITY).  NOT A SINGLE INDIVIDUAL OF 54 WHO 
PROVIDED AGE INFORMATION WAS LESS THAN 46 YEARS OLD.  IT 
APPEARS THAT AT THE HIGHEST LEVELS OF PROVINCIAL GOVERNANCE, 
MIDDLE-AGE MALE TRADITIONALISTS STILL CALL THE SHOTS. 
 
RAY 
 
                       UNCLASSIFIED