Testimony from some Meier-case witnesses

Following is an English translation of the witness-testimony section of the

Michael Hesemann

article by Michael
Hesemann in Magazin 2000plus (Oct. 1998, vol. 10, pp. 64-71) entitled
"The Meier Case: UFO Contactee Revealed?" It was extracted from the FIGU (Meier)
web site.

The Eyewitnesses speak
out

Photos can be faked, experts can make mistakes. But consider the
testimonies of more than 40 individuals whose UFO experiences, in conjunction
with the “Meier Case,” changed their lives. MAGAZIN 2000plus spoke with Meier
eyewitnesses:

Meier's son Methusalem [born in 1973] speaks out for the first time in
MAGAZIN 2000plus

MH: Cross your heart—what do you think today of your father's UFO
contacts, now that you have moved out of your parents' home? And: Did you ever
have your own doubts?

My opinion of my father's contacts has never wavered over the years. I am
just as convinced now as I ever was that his contacts are real, and this is a
logical consequence resulting from my own experiences. After all, even as a
small child I already had opportunities to attend sightings, at which my mother
and occasionally also my brother and sister were present. These sightings have
always stayed in my memory because they were so impressive for us all. I
actually never had any doubts although I have extensively and intensively
pondered Papi's contacts, which seems to me only natural. After all, I had to
associate everything I experienced and heard with my surroundings, and for this
reason I inevitably probed everything I was experiencing and hearing.

Were you ever witness to UFO sightings or any unusual incidents which
convinced you that your father was actually having contacts with
extraterrestrials?

In an earlier answer I already mentioned that I had various opportunities to
witness sightings, even as a small child. Several of these sightings are still
very clear in my mind. They have imbedded themselves indelibly in my memory
because of the surrounding circumstances. As far as unusual incidents and the
like are concerned from which one could conclude that my father actually
maintained contacts with extraterrestrials—I have plenty.

The earliest experience I can still vaguely remember was a sighting in June
of 1976, when I was not even three years old. We were with my mother, my brother
and sister, Hans Schutzbach, and Amata Stetter in a nature reserve in Hinwil. I
can still recall that it was a sunny, warm day and that Hans Schutzbach began
running around very excitedly when large silver disk was departing. He
photographed it nervously, but by then it was already quite far away. We watched
with great interest for a long time as the disk flew off.

In the summer of 1980 I was present in the Sنdelegg when we were given an
opportunity to record the whirring sounds of Semjase's beamship. I was standing
next to Mami, in view of my father, when the whirring sounds began. They were so
loud that even neighbors who lived about 4 kilometers [2.4 miles] away came to
see what was going on. Mami was with her recorder in such an advantageous
position to the source of the sounds that she was able to make the best
recordings of all.

Methusalem Meier
(right)
with Wendelle Stevens, 1999,
from Ed Martin's
book
King of Travelers

One year later in early August, together with several others, I observed at
night a formation of six light objects on the horizon above the Bühl in the Tِss
Valley. Based on their unusual flight maneuvers, there was no way they could
have been regular airplanes. The "show" lasted for more than half an hour and in
addition to my mother, my father, my brother Atlantis and sister Gilgamesha,
several other people observed the display too. The ships performed various
formation flights and very unusual flight movements before some of them simply
disappeared; we could still watch the others until they blended into the
darkness.

Later on, in September 1982, when I was barely nine years old, I was standing
next to my father when a small footbridge was being cemented across a drainage
ditch at the driveway of the shed. As soon as the work was completed we left the
construction site to bring material for cordoning off the area to protect the
freshly cemented footbridge. Silvano, who had gone ahead of us, suddenly came
dashing around the corner of the shed and called out to my father, because in
the meantime someone had actually stepped into the fresh cement. Papi [Billy]
griped and ran to the construction site where we noticed, only at second glance,
that the imprint of the shoe was exceedingly large, namely more than 42
centimeters [16.5 inches] long.

Have you ever experienced or seen anything that would indicate that
you father wanted to deceive others?

No. I have neither experienced anything like this nor were there indications
that he had faked something. It is not his nature to fabricate anything for
other people or to cheat them. I am certain that my father is telling the truth
in regard to his contacts, and this also coincides with my own experiences.

What do you personally tell those people who accuse your father of
being a fraud?

There is an old saying—one can learn how to lie from hearsay. This applies to
most of those people who call my father a fraud. Very few of them have ever
convinced themselves of the situation by going to the actual locations or
delving seriously into these matters. And if they have actually done so, they
often showed their jealousy because they couldn't handle the fact that another
person can experience something that didn't happen to them.

My father withdrew from the public eye over the years partially because of my
mother [Kalliope Meier] but also to give her a chance at playing top fiddle. By
letting her have her way in this manner, he was able to satisfy her urge to be
"top dog." In keeping with his character, he certainly didn't mind this at all,
because by doing so he could avoid some people fawning over him since they
looked on him as the great master, a guru or something special. However, he
finds such idolization repugnant and extremely unwelcome. For this reason he
continues his life withdrawn from the public.

Thank you, Methusalem

Hans in
2000

Through my association with Billy I had several nighttime sightings when we
were walking around in the courtyard and he pointed out the [space-] ships. In
August 1987 three ships came from the west in the middle of the night. They flew
over the [Meier farm-] house, hovered above it, jumped back and forth for
several minutes, and finally sped high into the sky.

Hans Georg Lanzendorfer (36),
sociology
teacher

At the very beginning, just as we were taking possession of the farm, the
basement was full of water which had to be pumped out. When the job was done,
Billy

Bernadette
in
2000

walked down there to see whether everything
had really dried. Shortly afterward he returned and said: “There are footprints
down there!” Of course, I didn’t believe him and thought that it simply could be
anything; but I decided to look for myself and even photographed the imprints.
When I got the photos back from the store, one could see the head and neck of an
extraterrestrial on one of the pictures.

I was present during a contact in Schِnenberg near Einsiedeln. We were
waiting for Billy when suddenly he stood before me. That night it had been
raining cats and dogs, but we could see how the first few drops had just then
fallen on Billy’s jacket, while we were totally drenched since the rain was
coming down so hard. He was completely dry during those first moments he was
standing there in the pouring rain! He explained to us that he had been beamed
down directly from the ship. Another time we observed a night formation of six
ships—one more of an entire series of UFO sightings we experienced with Billy.

Bernadette Brand (49),
lithographer/supervisor

I have experienced quite a few emotional moments. Once I was building the
chicken coop when I observed Billy as he was walking away from the Center on the
field path. I figured he was going to a contact. Shortly afterwards I heard a
loud, dynamic whirring sound and thought:

Wنchter in
1998

They must have just beamed him up now.
About half an hour later I felt compelled to look toward a meadow for a short
while and suddenly, without warning, Billy stood there as though someone had
pulled away a curtain that had kept him hidden from my eyes—he simply was
there!

He often took me along to his contacts as the driver. Before the contacts he
always received commands from elsewhere: "More north, a bit more south, another
20 meters and then go east," and these messages he passed on to me. I have often
seen the beamships as bright lights at night, which slowly traveled across the
horizon.

Once Billy requested that I accompany him because he wanted to go to a
contact. We were driving in the car and Billy constantly gave me instructions.
Suddenly he said, “Now you can stop.” He climbed out of the car and I waited. It
was still pretty cold. Then he disappeared onto a path in the forest. I was just
looking around when I suddenly saw the glint of something approximately 100
meters in front of me, in the direction of the forest. At first I thought that
this could possibly be an extraterrestrial. But then I had my doubts and figured
it was more likely a farmer who was looking after his cows. When I was once
again sitting back in the car, I saw this glinting once more. Now I simply had
to investigate this matter. I pointed my car toward the point where I had last
noticed the glinting and turned on the Halogen lights—and there, in front of me,
smack in the center of my car's high beams, was Quetzal, one of the
extraterrestrials! That was the first time I had seen an extraterrestrial. He
appeared to be a tall person wearing a cloak and a shimmering space suit. He
abruptly stood motionless and then he ran from the light beam. I reversed the
car and suddenly he was gone. When Billy returned from the contact he grinned
and jokingly asked me why I was terrifying harmless hikers—and then told me that
it had been Quetzal!

Engelbert Wنchter (66), printer

Silvano in
2000

I was present when four assassination attempts were made on Billy. That
really made me think quite a bit.

Once, in 1982, Billy called me: “Come, there is a ship hovering in the
clouds.” We could plainly and distinctly see it just as it appeared on his
photos—in bright daylight around 4 o'clock in the afternoon! The ship was
visible for about one or two minutes, then an airplane approached. At that
moment the ship veered into the clouds and was gone!

Silvano Lehmann (37), waiter

As an attendant I was present at many contacts. I can still recall how we saw
the beamships, and how we later visited the various contact sites and found the
landing marks. I was still very young in those days, but I remember how I stood
outside the doorstep one day and glanced across the scenery, when suddenly I saw
a ship in the sky. It was hovering there for about 10 or 15 seconds and then it
simply disappeared. At the time I made a watercolor drawing of the ship. This
remains very clear in my memory. And it was in broad daylight!

Atlantis Meier (28) [born in 1970], auto
mechanic

Eva in
2000

Together with Billy I have seen UFOs in the night sky several times and in
June of 1980 I heard the whirring sounds of the beamships. That afternoon all of
those who happened to be present had driven into the Sنdelegg. Billy stood about
150 meters/yards away from us to make some tape recordings of the whirring
sounds for himself. We were standing on the path and heard the sounds, which
were so loud that they attracted curious farmers and pedestrians in the
area.

A few years ago, together with Billy, I once saw a rather large object which
was flying in a zigzag pattern in the night sky.

Eva Bieri (43), secretary

One night I almost ran into an extraterrestrial. Suddenly I felt a type of
vibrating wave, which seemed to bid me to step back. I sensed the wave becoming
stronger the closer I got there. That was very impressive and I reflected for a
long time what this could have been. Finally I asked Billy. He explained to me
that this was an invisible protective shield of a female extraterrestrial
visitor. These protective shields are necessary for them because they cannot
tolerate our vibrations, which are so different from their own.

Louis Memper (48), chemist

Brunhilde Koye in
2000

Around 5 p.m. on April 8, 1983, I glanced up to the sky while working. It was
near dusk and there were many clouds in the sky when I noticed a light that was
moving towards me one moment and then away from me again; it moved to the right
and then to the left. I thought that this wasn’t normal, so I ran to get my
binoculars which, by chance, I happened to have in my car. In the meantime Billy
and several other FIGU members came out and were also observing this dancing
object of light.

Another time [30 Sept. 1983], while visiting Billy, I stayed overnight in the
RV. In the middle of the night I heard steps in the court yard. I went out to
investigate the sounds but I could sense something like a “Stay were you are!”
command within me and I stopped walking. I could, however, peek around the
corner and saw a tall, white-haired, bearded figure. Billy’s hair was still dark
in those days, so it was not he. I felt an incredible joy in me that was truly
special. The figure wore a white outfit and seemed to be surrounded by light. I
felt such a warm glow! Later I asked Billy about this, and he told me it was
Ptaah, one of the extraterrestrials.

Brunhilde Koye (64), ret. export merchant

I was repairing the pavement at the Farm and wanted to briefly cordon off the
freshly cemented area so that nobody would accidentally step into it.

Freddy in
2000

But when I returned I noticed the imprint
of a gigantic shoe in the cement. At first I thought somebody had tripped into
it because the person hadn’t seen the wet cement, but then it was clear to me
that no human being had such a large shoe size. Billy found out later that an
extraterrestrial called Danel, who is 2,48m [8'15"] tall, had made the imprint
so we would have another piece of evidence.

Some time ago, when Billy still drove the tractor, we had hitched a small
trailer to it and were driving into the valley toward Hinwil. After the first
turn I saw that Billy wasn’t even holding the steering wheel in his hands—we all
saw that the tractor moved all by itself. On this entire curvy stretch Billy
guided the tractor all the way into Hinwil, purely with his spiritual powers. He
never once touched the steering wheel.

Freddy Kropf (38), chef

Jacobus in
2000

While in Betswil, above Bنretswil, I was allowed to come to a contact with
Billy. He instructed me to wait by my car until I got more detailed directions.
I was rewarded for the long waiting period: Through the trees I could really
nicely see the ship rise at the horizon, then it darted with incredible speed
directly toward me. That was a spectacular show—and at night, no less! And then
they [the ETs] undertook some energy burning that resulted in a shower of
sparks, a splendor of color that couldn't have been more beautiful.

Jacobus Bertschinger (48), chauffeur

In 1976 I saw Billy Meier's photographs for the first time, and from then on
I wanted to know all about them. I asked whether I would be permitted to visit
him,

Guido in
2000

and then one weekend I came to see him,
still in Hinwil at the time. When I was preparing to leave again, Billy invited
me to stay a bit longer since he had the feeling that something was about to
take place that night. Shortly afterwards I had my first UFO experience.

In total I was present during three nighttime demonstrations, two of which I
was permitted to photograph. I have also inspected and photographed various
landing marks. I was present when Billy was beamed into our midst; I was a
witness when a 5-meter tall fir tree was eliminated; I was listening in when
Billy spoke by radio with two extraterrestrials—I was standing right next to him
at the time. And then one time he gave me precise instructions via radio
transmission when he was in Semjase's ship, which was hovering about 700
meters/yards above the Center. We were just pounding the fence poles into the
ground, and we did this crookedly, intentionally, to see if he'd notice—and he
corrected us accordingly.

Guido Moosbrugger (73), ret. school
principal

Here are additional witnesses we know by name, some of whom we have
interviewed: Elisabeth Gruber, Thomas Keller, Madeleine Brügger, Christina
Gasser, Herbert Runkel, Maria Wنchter, Conny Wنchter, Hans Zimmermann, Billy's
daughter Gilgamesha Meier, and in 1989 Kalliope, Meier's ex-wife, in her own
words.

The Swiss Air Force and
Meier

Another Meier witness is UFO researcher Erwin Mürner from Zurich. He stated
to MAGAZIN 2000plus: "I have known Billy Meier since 1976.

Mürner in
1998

At that time I visited him in Wetzikon with
a group of people. Together with him we went to the landing sites and conversed
with him. This intrigued me. Shortly afterward I sighted a UFO with my parents
and my wife just when I was about to take them to one of those landing sites.
The object was round. Suddenly it shot into the air. Then it stopped, dashed off
sideways and then it came back to the center before disappearing in a downward
motion, like a falling leaf.

Billy gave me several of his photos. The picture that impressed me the most
was of a UFO and an Air Force Mirage fighter plane. I made serious efforts to
uncover the truth about it. Then the following occurred: A UFO convention was
being held at the Zurich Novotel, where I met a man who was with the Air Force.
We entered into a conversation, and when he told me he was with the Air Force, I
asked him about the photo. He confirmed the photo was authentic and that they
knew everything about the contacts. I met with the man several more times,
during which he said he was part of the Army’s Special Services. At our next
meeting he carried a black briefcase, from which he removed a portfolio, a
dossier, which he allowed me to read . . . and on page 3 was the story about the
Mirage! In brief, the article stated that those who have knowledge about this
case must keep it a secret for the rest of their lives. Thereupon I asked my
acquaintance what he thought of Billy Meier, and he told me the military knew
that everything was true but the people aren't allowed to know about it."

Later Mürner was even able to glean the name of the Mirage pilot, and he
contacted him. The Air Force officer confirmed the incident without revealing
any details.

Does the Swiss Air Force have additional information about Meier's contacts?
It is certainly not coincidental that years ago the Swiss Army seized the
elevated area above the Meier Farm as a site for a rocket launching ramp; today
it is only used as an observation post.

Evidence exists which demonstrates that the Swiss Air Force could very well
know about the authenticity of Meier's contacts. As we reported in the May 1998
edition of MAGAZIN 2000plus No.127, an official of the Swiss Military Airspace
Safety Monitoring Unit informed Swiss ufologist Luc Bürgin and the MUFON-CES
research group about recorded data pertaining to radar sightings of unknown
flying objects in the Swiss air space. According to their information, 236 UFO
radar sightings took place in the airspace above the land of the Swiss
confederates between the 25-month period from April 1, 1993 to April 31, 1995.
Particularly noteworthy were the clusters of UFO radar positions above the
Zurich highlands—precisely in the area where Billy Meier has his contacts.

The Chief Witness

In October 1996 the International Humanistic Society and the UN's SEAT team
invited me, Michael Hesemann, to present a talk to their group at the
Headquarter of the United Nations. The lecture was held in the format of a small
conference where Carlos Diaz, Madeleine Rodeffer, and Colonel Colman Von
Keviczky also spoke. After the event a lady approached me and introduced herself
as a member of the UN delegation of a South-East Asian country. She asked me
whether I knew Billy Meier, and I confirmed this fact of course. She wanted to
hear my opinion of him, and I replied I was convinced of the contacts'
authenticity. Her friendly face literally lit up and then she revealed her story
to me:

She had known Billy Meier when he lived in India. Between April and September
1964, Meier had taken one of his trips around the world. As a young man he
visited 42 countries, mostly as a hitchhiker. He arrived at the Ashoka-Ashram in
Mehrauli near New Delhi to study Buddhism. The Ashoka Mission there, founded by
King Ashoka in the 3rd Century B.C., is the oldest Buddhist school.

The chief witness
with her grandfather, V.B. Dharmawara,
and her younger brother, circa
1967. All three were
witnesses of Asket with Meier, and Asket's UFOs,
in 1964.

Its leader today is the highly
respected V.B. Dharmawara, who recently celebrated in California his 109th
birthday in good health. In the monastery Meier befriended the Dharmawara’s
grandchildren who had previously fled to India when civil war broke out in their
own country. One of these grandchildren was the lady who approached me in New
York. She is now an esteemed diplomat. [But as of 2003 she is retired from her
diplomatic post, has married and is living in New York City.] And, incidentally,
her brother was the one who taught Meier how to catch snakes. So this, too, was
true! Until this time I had always smirked a bit when Meier claimed he had
performed hundreds of jobs on his trips—among them that of a snake catcher.

During an elaborate Indian dinner, to which she had invited me, the lady
recounted: “In those days all of us at the Mission saw the spaceships” and Meier
was in contact with their pilots. Additionally, she had seen him “walking across
the court yard of the Ashram accompanied by a woman with long, brunette hair,
dressed in a type of spacesuit.” Her grandfather also had been provided with
opportunities to speak with the extraterrestrial visitors. I listened to this
lady with baited breath and made a promise to her that I would keep her name
confidential and would not mention her homeland to anyone. She simply did not
want the publicity due to the sensitive nature of her diplomatic position.

Her important rank in her country's UN delegation was later confirmed to me
by friends who were UN colleagues of hers. Also, the lady came across as lucid,
ethical, cordial and honest. I found out, too, that she had previously revealed
the identical information to U.S. researcher Wendelle Stevens after one of his
lectures in New York. Because she wished to renew her contact with Meier, I
provided her with his address.

Meier’s contacts in India were actually investigated on location by one of
the world’s most renowned UFO researchers, Timothy Good, an English violinist
with the London Symphony Orchestra, which was performing in Delhi at the time.
During his stay there, by chance, a local newspaper The Statesman
reported Meier’s contacts. “Not only have I seen objects from space, I have also
photographed them and flown inside them,” the Swiss man had stated to the
newspaper and continued with, “I have an assignment to fulfill.” Good later
drove to Mehrauli and met people there who were aware of Meier’s contacts “with
the girl from space.” They described him as being “ethical and full of
enthusiasm.” Interestingly enough, it was this young woman from space, named
Asket according to Meier, with whom the UN diplomat had seen Meier walking
around! ....

A video tape of her presentation of this plus further information, taken
on Feb 23, 1999, at the 8th Annual International UFO Congress in Laughlin, NV,
along with presentations of Wendelle Stevens, Michael Hesemann and Methusalem
Meier in the session entitled "The Reopening of the Meier Case", is available
from:

International UFO Congress, Inc.
9975 Wadsworth Pkwy
#K2-504
Westminster, CO 80021
USA

Telephone: (303) 543-9443
Fax:
(303) 543-8667
E-mail: [email-masked]

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