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Why would any writer make up stories about the Holocaust?

Why would any writer make up stories about the Holocaust?
Melissa Katsoulis explores the strangest corner in the bizarre world of the
literary hoax

Friday, 16 October 2009

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Holocaust hoax: Herman and Roma Rosenblat's story was easy to
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Researching a book about literary hoaxes led me to investigate a sub-section
of the misery-memoir genre which often left me reeling in amazement: the
Holocaust hoaxers. Special privilege must be given to those increasingly few
witness-writers who survived the Second World War in Europe, but they have
certain duties too.

It is their right to write how and when they want (perhaps many decades
later, if they are ready) and, as with Elie Wiesel, with their own definitions
of truth and fiction. It was he who said that "Some stories are true that never
happened."

However, those memoirists who think that they can pretend they were there
when they weren't ought to remember that hijacking the experiences of others for
selfish ends will only end in ignominy. Their motivations were, as so often in
life and letters, a combination of pain, hope and greed, and they were
emboldened by a marketplace in thrall to the misery memoir.

Why the huge demand for such books? Perhaps what readers seek in trauma
stories is akin to what people look for in pornography: something edgy they have
never seen before, followed by a spectacular resolution. And they want to
identify (safely) with what they are reading; to try on someone else's crisis
for a while and see how it compares to their own. All these hoaxers had
difficult childhoods but, feeling that their truth was shamefully small, they
sought the grand signifier of the Holocaust to attract the compassion that they
desired.

Misha Defonseca's story began to emerge from her adopted Massachusetts in the
mid-1990s and was, like many a hoaxer's tale, one which in retrospect seems
ridiculously far-fetched. It also had that great asset of the schmaltzy
life-story: the love of a four-legged friend.

She told of crossing the wastes of war-torn Europe as a lonely child and not
only being adopted by a pack of friendly wolves, but single-handedly murdering a
burly German soldier. She gave inspirational talks about her epic journey,
smiled sweetly for the camera at a local wolf sanctuary and eventually published
her story in 1997.

Misha: A Memoir of the Holocaust Years was an instant success, embodying the
vain hope that belief, endurance (and fluffy animals) could mean something even
in the face of Hitler's machine. It was money that brought her down. A
falling-out about royalties led her publisher to enlist the help of historians
to look into what was beginning to seem like a fishy back-story. When zoologists
confirmed that no such wolf-woman love could have existed, and photos appeared
of her war-time childhood (smiling, well-fed and out shopping with her
grandmother), "Misha" knew the game was up.

Last year she finally confessed, admitting that she was in fact a Belgian
Christian whose father's work for the Gestapo left her traumatised by the stigma
of being a "traitor's child". She said: "It is not the actual reality – it was
my reality, my way of surviving".

Binjamin Wilkomirski, who turned out not to be a Latvian-Jewish orphan but a
rather comfortably-off Swiss clarinettist, is the most famous example. His
spectacular lies were similarly accounted for by the repentant author. He
initially claimed he had escaped to Switzerland after nearly dying in the camps,
and in Fragments detailed rats feasting on corpses and Nazis crushing men to
death. The book won him a host of literray prizes, but survivors noticed that
his descriptions of camp life were unconvincing.

Research revealed him to be a local lad, Bruno Grosjean, fostered during the
war after his mother gave him up. In her meticulous exposé in Granta, Elena
Lappin concluded that as a child Bruno and his mother might have been indentured
labourers, but that he had been conflating this with an imagined ghetto past for
so long that he had become a "Man with Two Heads".

His humiliation was complete when it was revealed that one of the girls he
claimed to have befriended in the camps, Laura Grabowsky, was a fraud herself –
an unhinged American serial-hoaxer who had written not only a fake Holocaust
memoir but a phoney one about satanic ritual abuse to boot.

The most recent case is Herman Rosenblat, the twinkly-eyed American pensioner
who came forward with a story so magical that it lifted the heart of every cynic
in New York. As a young boy in Buchenwald, he said, he strolled daily along the
perimeter fence to meet a little girl on the outside. She would toss him a shiny
apple and in so doing gave him the hope - and the vitamins - to carry on.

Decades later, as he wrote in Angel at the Fence, which very nearly got
published earlier this year, he randomly met a woman in New York who had also
fled post-war Europe. As they talked, Herman decided that she must be the apple
girl. They went on to fall in love and marry.

When his story came out, via appearances on Oprah, it was easy to debunk:
anyone approaching the perimeter fence would immediately have been shot.
Rosenblat had been promised a comfortable retirement on the proceeds of his
late-flowering career as a memoirist, and his claim that he was only trying to
spread a little hope with his story fell on deaf ears.

In fact, he really had been in a sub-camp of Buchenwald and the true story of
his and his devoted brothers' survival is far more moving than the one he made
up. Only nobody wants to listen to that now.

These three had at least been born in or near the theatre of war. But what
would make an Australian born in 1972 fabricate a Holocaust story? The case of
Helen Demidenko is the most peculiar of them all. Demidenko - real name Darville
- was a right-wing student in Brisbane who in 1993 published The Hand That
Signed the Paper, about the wartime experiences of the narrator's Ukrainian
father and uncle. However, they were not victims of Nazi violence but the
perpetrators, having joined the Einsatzgruppen after being terrorised by
Russian-Jewish "commissars".

Florid accounts of their life as merry Jew-hating death squad members flowed
enthusiastically from her pen, and when she won the Australian/ Vogel Literary
Award she began appearing in Ukrainian national dress and speaking in a funny
accent. Her unmasking was aided by the ire of the international Jewish community
at her sideline as an anti-Israeli journalist. Interviewing David Irving was not
her finest hour.

But unlike the other hoaxers, she remained unrepentant, blithely speaking of
the "wog accent" she put on and her annoyance at a politically-correct culture
whose prejudices she despised.

Darville's case may not be typical of Holocaust hoaxers, but it fits exactly
into the mould of the Australian literary hoax. All of them, even the
harmless-sounding Ern Malley poetry hoax, whose victim was a radical Jewish
poetry editor despised by the young fogies who made up Ern's oeuvre, are
characterised by a combination of racial anxiety and anti-intellectualism.

Darville is more than just a juvenile postscript to the strange canon of the
Shoah-fantasists. She would never have committed her distasteful hoax had she
not picked up on and wanted to subvert that dangerous concept of the "Holocaust
bore".

That idea is perpetuated by people – like Defonseca, Wilkomirski and
Rosenblat – whose output contributes to the notion of an unregulated Holocaust
"industry", where victimhood is rewarded by money and fame.

Yes, the notion of absolute truth in life-writing is notoriously fraught. But
when a writer stands before other survivors and gives as scripture what is
stolen from the memories of real witnesses, they can expect little sympathy.

Melissa Katsoulis's 'Telling Tales: a history of literary hoaxes' is
published this week by Constable

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rosenblat is offensive.
jayne77
wrote:

Friday, 16 October 2009 at 05:12 pm
(UTC)

apparently he continues to tell his holocaust story even
now. saw this on the gawker website.

http://gawker.com/5330138/lying-holocaust-author-recounts-tale-of-thing-that-never-happened?autoplay=true

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Re: rosenblat is offensive.
brad220374
wrote:

Sunday, 18 October 2009 at 12:27 am
(UTC)

Ummm, WHICH German documents? Everything proposed thus
far is fairly generic, nothing specific at all... You've got a book to sell, I
see? How convenient that YOU posted HERE....

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Why Would Anyone Make Up a Story About the
Holocaust
cweinbl
wrote:

Friday, 16 October 2009 at 10:01 pm
(UTC)

Many members of my family were murdered during the
Holocaust. I've heard family stories about it. I wrote a novel about the
Holocaust. My characters are my creation. But, after three years of daily
research about the Holocaust, I haven't the slightest doubt that the events I've
described happened to real people. Real Jews were driven from their jobs and
homes, forced into squalid ghettos, send to concentration camps, starved,
beaten, made sick, experimented upon and finally gassed or shot to death. No one
can doubt that this happened to millions of Jews. 98% of all PhD historians
stake their career upon the veracity of this information. Captured German
documents prove that it occurred. This happened to real people. Why then, do you
begrudge someone from making up a fictitious story?

We live in an age of
vulnerability. Holocaust deniers ply their mendacious poison everywhere,
especially with young people on the Internet. We know from captured German war
records that millions of innocent Jews (and others) were systematically
exterminated by Nazi Germany - most in gas chambers. Holocaust books and films
help to tell the true story of the Shoah, combating anti-Semitic historical
revision. And, they protect future generations from making the same
mistakes.

I wrote "Jacob's Courage" to promote Holocaust education. This
coming of age love story presents accurate scenes and situations of Jews in
ghettos and concentration camps, with particular attention to Theresienstadt and
Auschwitz. It examines a constellation of emotions during a time of
incomprehensible brutality. A world that continues to allow genocide requires
such ethical reminders and remediation.

Many authors feel compelled to
use their talent to promote moral causes. Holocaust books and movies carry that
message globally, in an age when the world needs to learn that genocide is
unacceptable. Such authors attempt to show the world that religious, racial,
ethnic and gender persecution is wrong; and that tolerance is our progeny's only
hope.

Charles Weinblatt
Author, "Jacob's Courage"
http://jacobscourage.wordpress.com/

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Re: Why Would Anyone Make Up a Story About the
Holocaust
panic2009
wrote:

Saturday, 17 October 2009 at 07:17 am
(UTC)

love, tolerance and compassion for everyone is the
key

so, when talking along these lines, please dont forget to mention the
plight of the palestinians and the ongoing incarceration and genocide they also
face on a daily basis. it would give your post the credence it deserves.

of course, you wont do that though.

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Re: Why Would Anyone Make Up a Story About the
Holocaust
unexpectedtiger
wrote:

Saturday, 17 October 2009 at 11:36 am
(UTC)

No. They are separate tragedies, the one has no moral
connection to the other. The poster above is clearly talking in universal terms,
you could apply what he says to Palestine, but why that in particular? I know
you don't mean to imply that the Holocaust is somehow retrospectively excused by
the Israeli's treatment of the Palestinians, but that is sort of how this comes
across.

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Re: Why Would Anyone Make Up a Story About the
Holocaust
cweinbl
wrote:

Wednesday, 4 November 2009 at 10:31 pm
(UTC)

Israel did not exist during the Holocaust. Bringing it
up in this context is irrrelevant. My ancestors were murdered by Nazis. I wrote
historical fiction about it. Is this immoral? Unethical? I chose to honor my
murdered ancestors with a book. Someone here turned my honor into a platform for
"Palestine" (note that there has never been a nation called "Palestine.").

Charles Weinblatt
Author, Jacob's Courage
http://jacobscourage.wordpress.com/

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Re: Why Would Anyone Make Up a Story About the
Holocaust
jmt001
wrote:

Saturday, 17 October 2009 at 07:53 am
(UTC)

Can you please provide me a link to the "captured Nazi
war records" you refer to? I am trying to compile all the evidence up for a
project, and thus far, I have been unable to find any such records. There is
much Russian and Nazi testimony referring to gas chambers and death camps, but I
have yet been able to find any WW II Nazi documentation that speaks of gas
chambers and death camps.

Thanks in advance.

JT

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Re: Why Would Anyone Make Up a Story About the
Holocaust
laserdent
wrote:

Saturday, 17 October 2009 at 09:08 am
(UTC)

natanyahu publically presented the signed by himmler
blueprints of the gas chamber in austwitz lat month

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Re: Why Would Anyone Make Up a Story About the
Holocaust
cweinbl
wrote:

Wednesday, 4 November 2009 at 10:36 pm
(UTC)

You asked for links for "captured German war documents"
that verify the veracity of the Holocaust. Here they are:

The following
web sites prove that millions of Jews were exterminated in Nazi camps:
http://www4.yadvashem.org/lwp/workplace/!ut/p/_s.7_0_A/7_0_3N7/.cmd/acd/.ar/sa.init/.c/6_0_288/.ce/7_0_3T2/.p/5_0_2E5
http://www.jewishgen.org/databases/Holocaust/Aufbau.htm
http://www.redcross.org/services/intl/holotrace/
http://www.insurance.ca.gov/0100-consumers/0300-public-programs/0100-holocaust-insur/holocaust-victims.cfm
http://www.ins.state.ny.us/hlcst.htm
http://www.hashava.org.il/
http://www.yadvashem.org/wps/portal/IY_HON_Welcome
http://www.deathcamps.info/testimonies/victims.htm
http://www1.us.nizkor.org/faqs/auschwitz/auschwitz-faq-08.html
http://www1.us.nizkor.org/index.html
http://www.bnaibrith.org/prog_serv/names_danzig.pdf
http://www1.us.nizkor.org/faqs/auschwitz/auschwitz-faq-08.html
http://www.jewishgen.org/infofiles/CapturedGermanRecords.html
(captured German records collection)
http://www.crt-ii.org/index_en.phtm
http://www.angelfire.com/or/yizkor/glussk22.html
http://www.ushmm.org/wlc/en/
http://www.knesset.gov.il/committees/eng/docs/shoa_finalreport_eng.htm
http://www.bundesarchiv.de/findbuecher/stab/euth/einfueh.php
(euthenasia dabank)
http://www.jewishgen.org/databases/Germany/stutthof.htm
http://resources.ushmm.org/Holocaust-Names/List-Catalog/display/details.php?type=cccat&id=909
http://www.jewishgen.org/GerSIG/majorsources.htm
http://www.kkjsm.org/holocaust/holocaust_intro.html
http://www1.us.nizkor.org/ftp.cgi/people/k/ftp.py?people/k/korherr.richard/eichmann.005
http://www.wienerlibrary.co.uk/
http://www.jewishgen.org/databases/Germany/westphalia.htm
http://www.yivoinstitute.org/index.php?tid=46&aid=105
http://www.hmd.org.uk/resources/item/3/
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_victims_of_Nazism
http://www.geocities.com/vienna/strasse/5960/names.html
http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/read/GEN-DE/2004-11/1101789334
http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jsource/Holocaust/cclist.html
http://www.meidashoa.co.il/
http://www.bterezin.org.il/

The
following web sites prove the use of Zyklon B to kill Jews:
http://www1.us.nizkor.org/faqs/auschwitz/auschwitz-faq-03.html
http://www1.us.nizkor.org/ftp.cgi/people/b/ftp.py?people/b/broad.pery/broad-testimony
http://www1.us.nizkor.org/ftp.cgi/camps/auschwitz/cyanide/cyanide.001
http://www1.us.nizkor.org/ftp.cgi/people/p/piper.franciszek/ftp.py?people/p/piper.franciszek/press/daily.texan.1093
http://www1.us.nizkor.org/ftp.cgi/people/g/ftp.py?people/g/grabner.maximilian/hoehne-on-morgen
http://www1.us.nizkor.org/faqs/auschwitz/auschwitz-faq-06.html
http://www1.us.nizkor.org/faqs/auschwitz/auschwitz-faq-07.html
http://www1.yadvashem.org/education/entries/english/20.asp
http://www.holocaust-history.org/dachau-gas-chambers/
http://cghs.dade.k12.fl.us/holocaust/summary.htm

This
is but a sampling of the proof that millions of Jews were systematically
exterminated during the Shoah. It all began at the Wannsee Conference, if you
would care to research that on your own. If not, I have many more links. But,
don't depend upon me for the facts. At least 98% of all PhD historians stake
their career on the facts of the Holocaust. If you know more than they do, we
should all be praying to you.

Charles Weinblatt
Author, Jacob's
Courage
http://jacobscourage.wordpress.com/

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Holocaust
scousekraut
wrote:

Saturday, 17 October 2009 at 01:11 pm
(UTC)

I would like to know where you get your statistics from
that 98% of all PhD historians stake their career upon the veracity of this
information. And also in which countries you are referring to. Is is in fact
possible in the USA and other countries to get a PHd without accepting the
official version of the Nazi Holocaust?

In addition like the poster
requests above please make available the link to the captured German war records
so that other inquisitve people have access to the information. Do those who you
describe as anti-semitic revisionists have access to this
information?

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Holocaust
cweinbl
wrote:

Wednesday, 4 November 2009 at 11:00 pm
(UTC)

Just a small portion of the data that proves millions of
innocent Jews were murdered:

http://www.deathcamps.info/testimonies/victims.htm
http://www1.us.nizkor.org/faqs/auschwitz/auschwitz-faq-08.html
http://www1.us.nizkor.org/index.html
http://www.bnaibrith.org/prog_serv/names_danzig.pdf
http://www1.us.nizkor.org/faqs/auschwitz/auschwitz-faq-08.html
http://www.jewishgen.org/infofiles/CapturedGermanRecords.html
(captured German records collection)
http://www.crt-ii.org/index_en.phtm
http://www.angelfire.com/or/yizkor/glussk22.html
http://www.ushmm.org/wlc/en/
http://www.knesset.gov.il/committees/eng/docs/shoa_finalreport_eng.htm
http://www.bundesarchiv.de/findbuecher/stab/euth/einfueh.php
(euthenasia dabank)
http://www.jewishgen.org/databases/Germany/stutthof.htm
http://resources.ushmm.org/Holocaust-Names/List-Catalog/display/details.php?type=cccat&id=909
http://www.jewishgen.org/GerSIG/majorsources.htm
http://www.kkjsm.org/holocaust/holocaust_intro.html
http://www1.us.nizkor.org/ftp.cgi/people/k/ftp.py?people/k/korherr.richard/eichmann.005
http://www.wienerlibrary.co.uk/
http://www.jewishgen.org/databases/Germany/westphalia.htm
http://www.yivoinstitute.org/index.php?tid=46&aid=105
http://www.hmd.org.uk/resources/item/3/
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_victims_of_Nazism
http://www.geocities.com/vienna/strasse/5960/names.html
http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/read/GEN-DE/2004-11/1101789334
http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jsource/Holocaust/cclist.html
http://www.meidashoa.co.il/
http://www.bterezin.org.il/
http://judaism.about.com/od/holocaust/ss/ausch_tour_5.htm
http://www1.us.nizkor.org/faqs/auschwitz/auschwitz-faq-03.html
http://www.pbs.org/auschwitz/40-45/killing/
http://www.scrapbookpages.com/Buchenwald/index.html
http://www.bundesarchiv.de/findbuecher/stab/euth/einfueh.php
http://www.ushmm.org/wlc/article.php?lang=en&ModuleId=10007271
http://www.crt-ii.org/index_en.phtm
http://www.ushmm.org/wlc/article.php?lang=en&ModuleId=10005214
http://www.ihr.org/jhr/v06/v06p237_Okeefe.html
http://www1.yadvashem.org/education/entries/english/20.asp
http://www1.yadvashem.org/education/entries/english/20.asp
http://www1.us.nizkor.org/faqs/auschwitz/auschwitz-faq-03.html
http://www1.us.nizkor.org/ftp.cgi/people/b/ftp.py?people/b/broad.pery/broad-testimony
http://www1.us.nizkor.org/ftp.cgi/camps/auschwitz/cyanide/cyanide.001
http://www1.us.nizkor.org/ftp.cgi/people/p/piper.franciszek/ftp.py?people/p/piper.franciszek/press/daily.texan.1093
http://www1.us.nizkor.org/ftp.cgi/people/g/ftp.py?people/g/grabner.maximilian/hoehne-on-morgen
http://www1.us.nizkor.org/faqs/auschwitz/auschwitz-faq-06.html
http://www1.us.nizkor.org/faqs/auschwitz/auschwitz-faq-07.html
http://www1.yadvashem.org/education/entries/english/20.asp
http://www.holocaust-history.org/dachau-gas-chambers/

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verticaljump
wrote:

Friday, 16 October 2009 at 10:41 pm
(UTC)

I don't know, it seems kind of sick to me. But, maybe
they think the idea will sell.
vertical jump

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jim_jimmeney
wrote:

Saturday, 17 October 2009 at 10:59 am
(UTC)

Q Why would any writer make up stories about the
Holocaust?
A Because it is profitable.

Sometimes you just don't need
to over analyse things.

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Germans aren't more nationalist than
"Brits"
jerome1949
wrote:

Saturday, 17 October 2009 at 12:03 pm
(UTC)

Is it only because the word German is many centuries old
and identifies a nationality in an unmediated manner, contrary to the utterly
contrived words describing Anglo-American domain entities:
'Brits'(English,
Irish, Scottish), 'Israelis'(Jews) & 'Palestinian'(Arabs), 'Americans'(USA),
'Australians',
'New Zealanders' that 'Germans' have been substituted with
Nationalist, written the same in German, and pronounced Natzionalist?

The
UK has murdered many millions of innocent lives throughout the 20th century, non
for its actual defense, since Germany never intended to invade the UK, never
could and actually sent Rudolf
Hess to plea for peace? yet he was imprisoned
for life, till murdered in 1987, when it became clear the impending collapse of
the DDR/GDR(an allied prison country) would set him free?

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Holocaust Stories
caroline4545
wrote:

Saturday, 17 October 2009 at 01:03 pm
(UTC)

Are these tales any worse than the liar Wiesel made
up?

It seems quite likely that before long the whole gas chamber anecdote
will be uncovered as the lie of the century.

Unjustly throwing
historians in prison will not ultimately achieve the Zionist goal which is
suppression of facts.

Imprisonment has been used throughout the ages by
those in power who wish to suppress the truth yet truth usually manages to
escape.

Lady Renauf has asked the EU to provide just one document
providing proof, I doubt it will be forthcoming.

Before I learnt about
Ernst Zundel and other people imprisoned for so called holocaust denial I truly
believed in the holocaust as told by many films and phony history.

I do
not believe any longer, I also made sure my teenage children and their friends
researched this subject rather than falling for a story as I and countless
others did.

Those trying to suppress facts are not winning as this
subject is now a favourite in many circles with historians generally being
believed.

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Payback
healthyskeptic
wrote:

Saturday, 17 October 2009 at 01:37 pm
(UTC)

These hoaxes have cause more destruction than anything
else in modern times. Nations, peoples, and economies have suffered as a result
of this colossal fraud. They embedded this false history in our
pyschology.
These people and free speech deniers who support them should be
punished. Traffiking in the Holocaust is the real crime.

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Truth in Advertising
a_8719
wrote:

Saturday, 17 October 2009 at 03:07 pm
(UTC)

It's amazing that for every lie that is told, the truth
comes about with equal force. Whoever and whatever entity is perpetuating llies,
will fall and fall big. I have pity for the liars at what they will inevitably
face -- and soon!

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Historical research, not dogma
touchmywound
wrote:

Saturday, 17 October 2009 at 03:47 pm
(UTC)

If these stories were written for pure entertainment
without slandering an entire peopled there would be no discussion or
argument.

But it seems Holohoax stories are written for political and
economic advantage by constantly slandering the German people into shame and
thus very profitable guilt money payments.

The least that could be said
is that these stories are very mischievous for the reasons mentioned above as
anybody else slandering an entire people would be ostracized from the world
community.
Not only the jews suffered during this time.
Some may be
surprised to hear that many Germans suffered as well as did many, many others.
It is too simplistic to attribute the entire blame on one people when precisely
the people who claim sole ownership of suffering and pain during that time, were
instrumental in creating the situation. It is an easy matter to do a little
honest research to verify this claim on the internet alone.

I was born
after the war, so I, like most people today, can only learn from written
material and , fortunately for me, eyewitness accounts from that
time.
Therefore to cloud the issue and create tales of imagination with real
consequences is unacceptable.

I can only conclude that history does not
seem to be the way it is narrated and accepted today. I find it problematic when
researchers who differ with historical dogma are immediately publicly ridiculed,
their careers destroyed and their reputation destroyed and finally silenced
through long prison terms.

To then claim sensitivity and accuse any
enquiry with "not respecting the memory of the dead" is pure opportunism and
breath taking hypocrisy .

I am all for historical research but not for
opportunistic dogma. I don't know what the truth is but I am suspicious of
people who will use all methods at their disposal to silence historical enquiry
on a topic that touches so many people and hurts many people to the present
day.

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Why hoaxers?
barringtonjames
wrote:

Saturday, 17 October 2009 at 06:47 pm
(UTC)

The holocaust was horrible enough without the hundreds
of phony 'eye-witness' stories that have been published over the last 50 years
or more. We have all seen the pictures, for example, of the thousands of dead
and dying from the camps inside Germany. However as it was quickly proven
immediately after the war, there was no gassing. And yet “Where are the gas
chambers?” Is the first question the camps tourists still ask?

Most of
the victims of the holocaust died as soon as the German cities were destroyed
and the nearby camps then ran out of food, water, medicine and sanitation. This
truth, however, does not help the common narrative spread by the victors that
they have used to justify a totally unjustifiable war and their criminal,
barbaric destruction of Germany. Nor does it justify, if that is the word, the
war against the Palestinians.

Hence we have had the hoax and the hoaxers,
the movies, the books, and the holocaust laws against trying to figure out what
really happened. These hoaxers and the wars against Iraq, Vietnam, Laos,
Yugoslavia, and the soon to be war against Iran make me wonder why the public
continue to believe such lies.

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Why hoaxers?
whocaresmore
wrote:

Saturday, 17 October 2009 at 07:18 pm
(UTC)

Its all about the money and power. This story pays all
involved very well. Simple as it is.

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Please forgive my stupidity
handybendy
wrote:

Sunday, 18 October 2009 at 04:35 am
(UTC)

Please forgive my stupidity but I can't help wondering -
just exactly what kind of truth needs laws and prison sentences to protect
it?

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Re: Please forgive my stupidity
panic2009
wrote:

Sunday, 18 October 2009 at 06:20 am
(UTC)

if you stop debate on any subject, you are merely trying
to hide the truth. time this was debated and put to bed.

there are too
many loose ends that need tying up.........pronto.

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joseg12
wrote:

Sunday, 18 October 2009 at 11:50 am
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How about guaranteed wealth and fame? Probably movie
deal? Instant celebrity status?

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The gas chamber story is a fraud
joseph61
wrote:

Monday, 19 October 2009 at 01:55 pm
(UTC)

It is time to allow the Iranian scientists access to
Aushcwitz camp documents . The laws of physics and chemistry are the same for
everyone. That means no miracles ! The premise that the Germans could use an
insecticde (zyklon-b) to delouse clothing to kill typhus carrying lice , and
somehow use this same insecticide to asphyxiate 1500 people at one time in a
period of 15 miunutes as survivors have testified is sheer nonsense. Yet France
and other european countries have criminalized the expression of this most
reasoned statement. euroepean society is regressing with such communist inspired
laws even after the Soviet collapse .

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The gas chamber story is a fraud
robertsgt40
wrote:

Monday, 19 October 2009 at 04:49 pm
(UTC)

Zyklon-b was manufactured by IG Farben, the chief player
in the rise of Hitler. On the board og IGF in germany was Max Warburg(as in MM
Wargurg-bankers. His brother, Paul Warburg(Chairman/founder of the Federal
Reserve) sat on the board of American IG Farben. These wars folks,all of them,
are banking funtions. As for the holocaust, I think it's time for open debate
starting with examination of facts, not claims. The 6 million figure was first
foisted on the world shortly after WWI. Need to also examine the Balfour
Declaration of 1917.

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Not the only hoax
thinkfree2
wrote:

Monday, 19 October 2009 at 08:30 pm
(UTC)

Jerzy Kosinski's book "The Painted Bird" is another
fraud that should have been picked up by the Holocaust Industry but instaed made
the writer really large sums of money and much fame. And got generations of
Polish kids tormented for the supposed anti-semitism it described. But Kosinski
hadn't wandered as a child alone amongst sadists and perverts - he'd spent the
war with his parents and the recognisable peasants he described had risked their
own lives to save him.

Unmasked when his book finally appeared in Poland
after the fall of communism, Kosinski did try to make amends at the end of his
life - when asked "What did the Polish do for the Jews" he shot back "What did
the Jews do for the Poles?"

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herman rosenblat writer
conniemasters
wrote:

Saturday, 24 October 2009 at 11:33 am
(UTC)

this is the web page for the author of the new herman
rosenblat novel something called, the apple. written by his public relations
woman! i wonder if he paid her. link:

http://www.impactplan.com/bio_holt.php

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Why are ‘real’ writers not writing about the
Palestinian Holocaust?
asifrauf
wrote:

Sunday, 1 November 2009 at 05:01 am
(UTC)

Why are ‘real’ writers not writing about the Palestinian
Holocaust?
That’s the question the humanity dying in the new holocaust asks
you!
The writers and readers of toady will have to carry the burden of
today’s holocaust that is being played in open sight and yet ‘you’ the readers
and writers have chosen to support & ignore – you cant just walk away from
the holocaust of your generation.
Your conscious will prick you one day when
your persona of denial will fall apart and the aggressor will manifest with a
forceful rupture of truth – you will wish you had ‘stopped” the holocaust with
your writing, speaking or taken action but it will be too late. But, by that
time You will have lost you power to act – all you will be able to do is live a
life of sorrowful memory
Your grand children will question your role in
silently supporting this genocide and holocaust.
Writers of the human race –
where is your humanity – can you see, can you hear, can you write, can you
speak?

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Re: Why are ‘real’ writers not writing about the
Palestinian Holocaust?
cweinbl
wrote:

Wednesday, 4 November 2009 at 10:49 pm
(UTC)

When millions of Palestinians have been tortured, used
as forced (slave) labor and then murdered, there wil lhave been a "holocaust."
Until then, they have an inconvenience. On the other hand, Palestinians launch
rockets each day into Jewish cities, along with suicide bombers and snipers.
Their goal is to murder innocent Jewish women and children. This is a holocaust.
Palestinians refuse to grant Israel the right to exist as a Jewish state - a
right guaranteed by the UN in 1948. If you examine the charters of Hamas and
Hizbollah, you will see that they promise to destroy Israel and to kill all Jews
who remain. This is another Holocaust against Jews.

Jews have occupied
the land called Israel since the exodus from Egypt, more than 3,000 years ago.
This predates the Muslim religion by 1,500 years and the Palestinian people by
more than 2,000 years. Jews occupied the land before Arabs, Muslims and
Palestinians and they have a right continue to sojourn in their land. The Jewish
kingdoms of David and Saul predate any Muslim or Arab claim. So, why do
Palestinians suggest that they have a claim on this land?

Charles
Weinblatt
Author, Jacob's Courage
http://jacobscourage.wordpress.com/

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Holocaust Hoaxers
mcgowandaniel
wrote:

Sunday, 1 November 2009 at 09:46 am
(UTC)

If these Holocaust stories can be discredited, why can
the narrative of Elie Wiesel not be questioned? Is the reader of "Night" really
to believe that victims at Auschwitz were thrown alive into huge fire pits, when
today even the Yad-Vashem-trained guides at Auschwitz say that is not true? Must
we really believe that a little Jewish boy took a violin on the death march to
Buchenwald instead of extra food or clothing? Why are we not told what really
happened to Wiesel's two older sisters and are instead led to believe that they
perished at Auschwitz? Why are we not told that both Wiesel's mother and little
sister died of typhus and not in a gas chamber?

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