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Viewing cable 09QUITO657, CONFUSING SIGNALS ABOUT ECUADOR'S YASUNI ITT CONSERVATION
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09QUITO657 | 2009-07-30 12:24 | 2011-04-20 18:30 | CONFIDENTIAL | Embassy Quito |
Appears in these articles: http://www.eluniverso.com/2011/04/19/1/1355/cable-218811.html |
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C O N F I D E N T I A L QUITO 000657
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SUBJECT: CONFUSING SIGNALS ABOUT ECUADOR'S YASUNI ITT CONSERVATION
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Ref. A) Quito 204
¶1. (C) SUMMARY. On June 24, the ...
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C O N F I D E N T I A L QUITO 000657
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TAGS: EPET PREL SENV ECON EC
SUBJECT: CONFUSING SIGNALS ABOUT ECUADOR'S YASUNI ITT CONSERVATION
PROJECT
Ref. A) Quito 204
¶1. (C) SUMMARY. On June 24, the Ambassador met with former Foreign
Minister Francisco Carrion, who is now a principal spokesman for the
GOE's Yasuni ITT conservation project. This initiative seeks to
protect the Ecuadorian Yasuni National Park in exchange for
international financial compensation. Carrion told the Ambassador
that the German Government had committed nearly $1 billion to the
project over the next 13 years. On July 7, EconOff met with Roque
Sevilla, another spokesman for the project, who confirmed this
information and provided additional updates on the status of the
project. On July 13, EconOff met with Germany's Ambassador to
Ecuador, Christian Berger, who told EconOff that, in fact, no
commitment had yet been made. Ambassador Berger reaffirmed his
desire to help preserve the Yasuni park, but expressed frustration
about poor communication by the GOE and a lack of clarity about the
project's details. End Summary.
AMBASSADOR DISCUSSES YASUNI WITH FORMER FOREIGN MINISTER
--------------------------- ----------------------------
¶2. (C) The Ambassador met with former Foreign Minister Francisco
Carrion on June 24. As part of a wide-ranging conversation, Carrion
mentioned that he is closely involved in the Yasuni
Ishpingo-Tambococha-Tiputini (ITT) initiative. The initiative seeks
to have the international community provide financial support to
Ecuador in exchange for its promise not to allow oil production in
the sensitive Yasuni national park, an area of exceptional
biodiversity in Ecuador's eastern rainforest. Carrion told the
Ambassador that the German government had recently agreed to support the initiative with donations of 30-50 million euros per year for 13 years, which could end up totaling nearly $1 billion. Carrion said
this was evidence that the initiative was gaining international
credibility. He said the initiative would get further backing from
the Inter-American Development Bank (IDB), which he said was setting
up an "international trust fund," to allow donations to support
poverty reduction, environmental protection, or indigenous programs.
Carrion told the Ambassador that there would be an outdoor concert in
Madrid on September 19, 2009 to promote the Yasuni initiative. He
said this concert would be broadcast around the world and would be
part of a global publicity campaign with billboards in major cities.
Carrion said the GOE would also promote the initiative at the
upcoming conference on climate-change in Copenhagen in December.
SPOKESMAN FOR THE PROJECT BRIEFS ECONOFF ON NEW DEVELOPMENTS
--------------------------- ---------------- ----------------
¶3. (C) On July 7, EconOff followed up on the Ambassador's
conversation with Carrion by meeting with Roque Sevilla, a former
mayor of Quito, who is another of the principal spokespersons for the
Yasuni initiative. Sevilla gave a more extensive briefing on the
status of the project, and said the basic structure was unchanged
since he briefed diplomats from several western nations in March 2009
(ref A). Sevilla had recently returned from a trip to Europe to
promote the initiative with the German and British governments, and
he said the trip had been very successful. He confirmed that the
German government had agreed to contribute nearly $1 billion to the
initiative, and said the mark of credibility this conferred on the
concept had provided a major boost to the initiative.
¶4. (SBU) Sevilla said that the plan still revolved around selling
"Certificates of Guarantee--Yasuni" (CGYs) against the value of the
carbon of the Yasuni ITT oil reserves. The GOE previously stated
that not exploiting the estimated 950 million barrels of oil in the
reserve would prevent an estimated 410 million tons of carbon dioxide
(CO2) from being released into the atmosphere. Based upon current
European Trading System market rates for CO2 of roughly $19 per ton,
the value of the oil reserves' carbon would be approximately $7.8
million. Sevilla said the value of the CGYs would be tied to market
prices of carbon, which prevented him from giving an exact figure for
the total compensation Ecuador is seeking.
¶5. (SBU) Sevilla said that Ecuador planned to seek donations from
the signatories of the Kyoto Accord plus the United States. He said
the amounts solicited from each country would be determined by the
size of its economy in comparison with the combined GDPs of all the
countries. For example, if a country's GDP was 11% of the group's
total economic output, Ecuador would ask it to contribute 11% of the
costs of the Yasuni initiative.
¶6. (SBU) In his March 2009 presentation, Sevilla said Ecuador
originally planned to have the CGYs classified as carbon bonds
("certified carbon credits") by the signatory countries of Annex 1 of
the Kyoto Protocol. Companies and investors would then have been
able to purchase CGYs like other carbon credits through the European
Trading System and would have registered these purchases with their
governments. Sevilla told EconOff that the German government had
objected to this plan, however, saying it was too complicated.
Sevilla said the GOE will therefore instead solicit contributions
directly from European governments, which will be able to pass along
the carbon credits to companies and individuals in the manner of
their choosing.
¶7. (SBU) Despite the shift in strategy for Europe, Sevilla said the
GOE believes the carbon-credit approach is best for the U.S., since
it removes the political liability of spending taxpayer dollars on
the project. He pointed to pending legislation in the U.S. Congress
that would create a U.S. market for carbon credits, and suggested
that CGYs could be traded there. Sevilla said the GOE would soon
brief many other countries on the proposal as well, and would provide
the same kind of flexibility in order to make the plan workable in
different settings.
¶8. (SBU) The plan calls for funds raised for the initiative to be
placed in an international trust. Sevilla said the GOE was in
negotiations with both the UN and the Inter-American Development Bank (IDB) to manage the trust. Press reports have stated that the Andean Development Corporation is also being considered. Sevilla said proceeds from the fund would then be invested through Ecuador's
National Development Plan in projects for conservation,
reforestation, renewable energy, and social development. The last of
these would include education and training programs in areas like
ecotourism and agro-forestry.
SEVILLA SEEKS TO ASSUAGE POTENTIAL CONCERNS
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¶9. (SBU) EconOff told Sevilla that the USG was still trying to
understand the Yasuni proposal, and questioned him about potential
difficulties. EconOff asked if the initiative would not simply drive
consumers to other sources of oil, resulting in little overall
reduction in the emission of carbon. Sevilla agreed that "leakage"
of this sort could occur, but he argued that Ecuador's Yasuni
initiative is simply the first step in a new approach to managing oil
reserves. Sevilla said that if parallel efforts could be launched in
countries like Colombia, Bolivia, Papua New Guinea, and the
Philippines--countries that have similar combinations of oil reserves
and biodiversity--it would be much harder for consumers to find
alternative oil supplies and would eliminate the leakage problem.
Sevilla said the effect of this would be to "change the paradigm" of
conservation, and he argued that the Yasuni initiative could play a
"revolutionary" role by showing that it was a viable approach.
Sevilla agreed that the cost of the project was high, but he argued
that since the money raised would be used for conservation and
reforestation efforts, the plan would actually have an "amplification
effect." Climate change would be reduced both by not burning the oil
in the reserves and by the conservation projects that the money
funded.
¶10. (SBU) Sevilla admitted that it is difficult for the GOE to offer
long-term guarantees for a project like this, but he suggested that
it would be very costly for the GOE to renege on its promises. He
noted that any exploitation of the oil by the GOE would be met with
scathing criticism from the international community, and would result
in the fund being dissolved and assets returned to the
certificate-holders. Sevilla pointed out that developing oil
reserves takes a minimum of five years, during which Ecuador would
receive neither the benefits of the fund nor income from the
reserves. He suggested that this financial blow would provide a
strong disincentive to abandon the plan. Sevilla also argued that,
with the rising global importance placed on biodiversity and a broad
public-awareness campaign to support the project, Ecuador's
reputation--like that of Costa Rica--would increasingly be dependent
upon good environmental stewardship. He said this reputation would
be irreparably damaged by any move to abandon the initiative.
¶11. (SBU) Sevilla said the Yasuni public awareness campaign would be launched on September 19, with outdoor concerts in Madrid and Quito called "Cibeles Ambiental." Sevilla said the concerts will include
several prominent musical groups and will be broadcast live on
outdoor video screens in European capitals and major U.S cities.
GERMAN AMBASSADOR CORRECTS MISPERCEPTIONS
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¶12. (C) EconOff's meeting with Ambassador Berger of Germany was
markedly different in tone from the meetings with Carrion and
Sevilla. The Ambassador stressed his strong desire to preserve the
Yasuni reserve, noting its remarkable biodiversity and laughing that
"Germans are emotional about forests." He flatly denied, however,
that the German Government had made any financial commitment to the initiative beyond funding a $300,000 study of its feasibility. He
said he had first seen reports of the nearly $1 billion German
donation in the German press in June, but had confirmed with
Ministries in Berlin that no such commitment had been made or was
pending.
¶13. (C) Ambassador Berger expressed frustration with the way the GOE has managed the project. He said the German Government had been pressing the GOE for months to provide greater detail about the
proposal, and was disappointed that it was still not finalized. He
expressed skepticism about the viability of the GOE's carbon-credit
idea, saying he thought it was too complicated and would prefer a
plan that was simply "donations to protect the forest." Ambassador
Berger said he had concerns about long-term guarantees and the price
tag for the project but did not think it was worth commenting on them
without having been able to review a final proposal. He noted,
however, that the current level of German aid to Ecuador is $10
million a year, which it manages through its GTZ development agency.
The Ambassador expressed skepticism that any future commitment would be as large as the reported amount. Ambassador Berger said that Germany is now waiting for the GOE to produce a final plan. He said he had cautioned GOE officials, however, that they had "played the German card," and it was time for the GOE to line up additional
support elsewhere.
COMMENT
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¶14. (C) Carrion and Sevilla's enthusiasm for this project is
infectious, and it is difficult not to wish them success in
protecting this ecologically-important rainforest. The conflicting
information and lack of specificity makes it difficult to evaluate
the project, however. On July 9, just two days after EconOff's
meeting with Sevilla, Bloomberg News reported that GOE Foreign
Minister Fander Falconi had announced that the GOE would seek a
reduced amount of $3 billion for the project, rather than the $7
billion it initially sought. Neither Carrion nor Sevilla gave any
indication that this was being considered in their meetings with the
Ambassador and EconOff. The Yasuni initiative website still does not
have a final version of the proposal, and Falconi's announcement
suggests that major elements of the plan are still being worked out.
EconOff also attempted to find out more information about the planned
September 19th concerts in Madrid and Quito, but was unable to locate
anything beyond a few scattered references on the Internet. This
apparent lack of preparation makes it unclear how major concerts
supporting the project will be organized and broadcast globally in
less than two months.
¶15. (C) The Embassy believes that Ecuador will continue to promote
this project aggressively in the lead-up to the December conference
in Copenhagen. We will provide additional updates as new information
about the plan emerges.
HODGES
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