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Viewing cable 07BUENOSAIRES406, U/S BURNS AND A/S SHANNON FEBRUARY 9 MEETING WITH
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07BUENOSAIRES406 | 2007-03-02 16:22 | 2011-03-29 00:00 | CONFIDENTIAL | Embassy Buenos Aires |
Appears in these articles: http://www.lanacion.com.ar/1361157-la-relacion-con-chavez-al-desnudo |
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SUBJECT: U/S BURNS AND A/S SHANNON FEBRUARY 9 MEETING WITH
ARGENTINE CHIEF OF CABINET ALBERTO FERNANDEZ
Classified By: Ambassador E. Anthony Wayne for reasons 1.4(b)and(d)
¶1. (C) SUMMARY: Under Secretary Burns and Assistant
Secretary Shannon, accompanied by Ambassador, met February 9
SIPDIS
with Cabinet Chief Alberto Fernandez. During a brief
drop-by, President Kirchner welcomed U/S Burns and A/S
Shannon and thanked them for their visit. Fernandez
expressed the GOA's desire for a ""mature"" relationship and
honest communication with the U.S., and agreed that the two
countries have common ground on issues of social development,
the fight against drugs and crime, and international issues
such as peace-keeping in Haiti, non-proliferation and
counterterrorism. In the context of a ""mature relationship,""
U/S Burns raised the public criticism by the GOA of a
commercial advocacy issue that erupted on the eve of his
visit. Fernandez said the criticism had not been aimed at
the U.S. and that he would make that clear (he did so in a
February 10 radio interview). Fernandez and Burns agreed
that the issue resulted from a misunderstanding. They also
discussed broader investment concerns. U/S Burns encouraged
Argentina to act as a regional leader by supporting democracy
in Bolivia and Cuba and stressed that Venezuela's President
Chavez was more a threat to the region than to the U.S.
Fernandez, in turn, asked the U.S. to ""pay more attention"" to
Latin America. END SUMMARY.
¶2. (U) U.S. Partipants:
Nicholas Burns, Under Secretary for Political Affairs
Thomas Shannon, Assistant Secretary for Western Hemisphere
Affairs
Ambassador Earl Anthony Wayne
William McIlhenny, Member, Policy Planning Council(S/P)
Heide Bronke, P Special Assistant
David Alarid, Political Officer
Katrisa Peffley, Notetaker
Argentine Participants:
Chief of Cabinet Alberto Fernandez
(Drop-by by President Nestor Kirchner)
--------------------------------------------
ARGENTINA AND THE US: A MATURE RELATIONSHIP
--------------------------------------------
¶3. (SBU) U/S Burns and A/S Shannon, accompanied by
Ambassador, met with Argentine Cabinet Chief (and member of
the Kirchner inner circle) Alberto Fernandez. Fernandez
stated his belief that U.S.-Argentine relations were positive
and improving, acknowledging past problems, specifically at
the November 2005 Summit of the Americas in Mar del Plata.
He complimented Ambassador Wayne and former Ambassador
Gutierrez for their work in Argentina and their contribution
to U.S.-Argentine relations and noted the GOA's desire for a
mature bilateral relationship with open communications.
¶4. (U) U/S Burns also highlighted the positive nature of the
relationship, emphasizing common ground on issues related to
non-proliferation, counterterrorism, counternarcotics and
peacekeeping. He praised Argentina for its peace-keeping
efforts in Haiti and its regional leadership on questions of
non-proliferation, and noted that Argentina is taking the
difficult step of dealing with its history of human rights
abuses. U/S Burns mentioned the USG,s partnership with
Brazil on the development of biofuels, and suggested that
similar cooperation with Argentina might be possible.
¶5. (C) U/S Burns noted, however, that in ""mature""
relationships, ""frank conversations"" between parties are
generally understood to be private. He expressed surprise
that a private letter from Ambassador Wayne to Planning
Minister De Vido had sparked an uproar in the Argentine
press. Just the day before the visit of U/S Burns and A/S
Shannon, one of Argentina,s major daily newspapers published
reports of a letter from Ambassador Wayne to Planning
Minister De Vido, written in support of a U.S. fund,s
planned investments in Argentina. President Kirchner
responded to the newspaper reports by publicly protesting the
""pressure"" from the U.S. U/S Burns questioned Kirchner's
response noting that the Embassy was engaging in what is
widely accepted to be normal commercial advocacy on behalf of
reputable American companies. Burns reiterated the fact that
the USG does not desire a ""divisive"" relationship with the
GoA.
¶6. (SBU) Fernandez laid the blame for the incident squarely
on the newspaper, calling its actions ""impertinent,""
""ungrateful"" and ""embarrassing,"" and accusing the newspaper
of publishing the letter ""with bad intentions"" because it
implied that bribes were involved. He stated that comments
by the GoA were ""not intended as criticism"" of the Embassy or
the Ambassador, and assured U/S Burns that if the GoA had
been upset by the letter, it would have expressed its
concerns to the Embassy directly. Fernandez said he would
make sure that it was understood publicly that the criticism
was not aimed at the U.S. Embassy or the Ambassador. (Note:
He made these points in a radio interview on Saturday,
February 10, which was carried in the Sunday Papers. In the
interview, he described relations with the U.S. as ""good"" and
""mature."" End note.) Burns and Fernandez agreed that the
commotion could be attributed to a ""misunderstanding"" and was
now behind us.
--------------------------------------------- -
ARGENTINA AND LATIN AMERICA: A REGIONAL LEADER
--------------------------------------------- -
¶7. (C) U/S Burns asked Fernandez for views on how the USG
and GoA could work together to deal with challenges facing
Latin America, saying that President Bush and Secretary Rice
consider Argentina to be a leader in the region. Fernandez
said he attributed the current situations in Venezuela and
Bolivia and elsewhere to the failed policies and corruption
of previous governments, and, in particular, their failure to
respond to the social and economic needs of the people.
Fernandez said that the USG needs to pay more attention to
Latin America and its needs. The impression in Latin
America, he said, is that too often the USG tries to dictate
what Latin American countries should do, according to its own
agenda. The U.S., he noted, has more influence than it
realizes. Fernandez also implied that the USG should not be
so concerned with ""types"" of government, whether left-wing,
right-wing, or centrist. Using Argentina as an example, he
said that some critics say the GoA leans too far to the left,
others say that it leans too far to the right, but in fact
the GoA just makes ""rational"" decisions about what is best
for Argentina.
¶8. (C) U/S Burns and A/S Shannon stressed that the USG has
actively sought to reach out to Morales in Bolivia and
Correa in Ecuaor. The U/S said that USG policy was
""ecumenical"" and that the USG had no problem working with
democratically elected governments, be they left-leaning or
right.
¶9. (C) Burns explained that Venezuela was another matter.
He told Fernandez that the USG has deliberately decided to
adopt a low profile approach to Venezuela, not responding to
Chavez,s ""immature, crude"" attacks on President Bush. He
explained that the U.S. does not see Chavez as a direct
threat to the U.S. but that we do see him as a threat to
democracy in the region and believe other leaders in the
region ought to ""limit"" and ""contain"" him. U/S Burns asked
Fernandez how he would assess Chavez,s influence in Latin
America. Fernandez dismissed the idea that Chavez might be
the ""future leader of Latin America."" He claimed that
Chavez,s ""unnecessary"" behavior had been ""severely
questioned"" by President Kirchner during a personal meeting.
Fernandez said that Chavez,s attitude is ""dangerous,"" and
expressed the opinion that the Venezuelan president,s
""sermons"" show that he wants to be Castro,s successor in
Latin America. Although freely critical of Chavez, Fernandez
tempered his negative remarks by stating that Chavez is
president by the will of the Venezuelan people, and dismissed
Chavez,s fiery rhetoric as far more extreme than his
intentions.
¶10. (C) U/S Burns urged the GoA to be an active advocate for
democracy as Cuba enters a period of transition in
governance. He noted that the USG had been careful in its
public commentary during Castro,s illness and hoped that
other Latin American countries such as Brazil and Argentina
would step up and call for democracy. Fernandez replied that
the GoA has a ""respectful but distant"" relationship with Cuba
and is dissatisfied with the current undemocratic government.
He referred specifically to the case of Cuban doctor Hilda
Molina, currently restricted from leaving Cuba to visit her
family in Argentina.
¶11. (C) Fernandez touched briefly on the situation of other
countries in the region. He called the situation in Bolivia
""unique and complicated,"" and described Evo Morales as a
president with good intentions but a rudimentary
understanding of power and the world. He claimed that the
GoA has counseled Morales not to pick fights with the U.S.
because the U.S. is not his enemy, but he also acknowledged
tha Morales thought Bolivia should follow the example set by
Cuba and Venezuela. Fernandez spoke of Argentina,s
relationship with Brazil in very positive and friendly terms.
He also called attention to Ecuador,s Rafael Correa as a
""visionary"" president with very good understanding of world
affairs.
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¶12. (SBU) Fernandez noted he would be a guest lecturer at
Harvard in April. U/S Burns invited Fernandez to have lunch
with him in Washington D.C. during that visit.
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